HPRB October 21, 2019 Meeting Thread

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  • Applehd

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    This thread will be used for discussion of the meeting of the Handgun Permit Review Board(HPRB) on October 21, 2019.

    DPSCS website link below. This link will be updated to reflect a change of meeting status or possible change of venue. Future meeting dates, time, and the location of the meeting is posted on the DPSCS HPRB website.

    http://www.dpscs.state.md.us/agencies/hprb.shtml

    As of July 8th, 2019 the Handgun Permit Review Board meets at The Fifth Regiment Armory, 219 29th Division Street, Baltimore, MD 21201. Meetings are scheduled to begin at 6:00 pm.

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/J...hUKEwjVqri7uJLlAhUSVN8KHSTJBLwQ_BIwE3oECA0QCA
     

    Kharn

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    Have there been public appeals before the HPRB for top secret clearance applicants, or are those likely included in the closed session cases?
     

    Adolph Oliver Bush

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    Hunting guide. Not the owner. Cash deposits. Citing prior father/son precedent of issuance for similar circumstances.
     

    Not_an_outlaw

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    I am late, but have arrived. A guy talking about money. Main office in Maryland, but has office in Hyman, PA.

    MSP up. Two business. Been a year to get here. Says lack of G&S and provided false information. No proof he is employed, but volunteers. Didn't get false claims part.
     

    Not_an_outlaw

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    APPL cants said application was modified after he completed, but before it got to MSP. Board asking questions about what bank he uses.

    MSP stating background investigator said something about question 23. MSP said is probably employee, but no way to verify, like a tax statement. FYI - filing is done by people, not the federal government.

    Board member asks since the owner is here and states he is an employee, is that good enough to show employment.

    Board member asks wouldn't the bank deposits be sufficient to show employment.

    MSP thinks can probably get qualified with restrictions.
     

    Adolph Oliver Bush

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    Board member asking about church volunteers carrying while making church deposits. Not employees either.
     

    Not_an_outlaw

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    Applicant standing he has known applicant for years.

    Board member says integrity is not an issue. Wants applicant to work with MSP.

    I think they are going to have an offer line conversation in the building.
     

    Not_an_outlaw

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    Next applicant up. Speaking broken English. Says he investigated crime scenes. And something with explosives. He can work in multiple states and testify in court about his finding. Wears a uniform. Some about ATF letters. Works in a place where he cannot bring is family (?????). Worried about issues out in town with family since he testifies against bad guys.

    MSP - applied as a _______ engineer. No prohibition from possession. Lacked sufficient documentation. Did not provide anything about being threatened at work.

    Applicant said ATF will not allow him to carry during work because he has no arrest powers. Yes, this is stupid.
     

    Not_an_outlaw

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    Very tall woman up. Said she took the course. Applying for permit for employment (not sure I have this right).

    Said she was accused about not being honest. Was unaware of the hearing until the last meeting and was unsure if the opinion.

    MSP - applied Oct. 18. A freaking year. Checked not on question 9 - being served for domestic violence. Ex husband - threw something at him. Had beIN served twice. This was providing false information. Tried to contact applicant. Was unable to reach her. For these reasons, denied.
     

    Not_an_outlaw

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    Board member asked why answered 9. Said she just checked, checked, checked. Said in so many words, it was an oversight. Board asked if protective orders were prohibited. MSP said they would no be prohibiting.
     

    Not_an_outlaw

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    Getting a little lost in the argument. She is stating something about a government job. Said she took the course for the job.

    Board member said must first be employed by a security company before she can get a permit. Must be sponsored. Applicant asked for letter. Said employer would know that.

    MSP said she should apply again.
     

    Not_an_outlaw

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    Next applicant up. He passed out some papers. Applying under assumed risk. Personal protection, emergency medical technician, works Baltimore county, but lives in Harford county. Said he has been threatened on the job. Talking about issues with callers. Gets in arguments with people, for example, did get there soon enough. Permit is a reasonable method to defend self. Also has to ask people about drug use. Makes people angry. People take his picture and post online. Travels thought different counties.
     

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