Mike Smigiel's thoughts on Hogan

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  • CrazySanMan

    2013'er
    Mar 4, 2013
    11,390
    Colorful Colorado
    Not because 80,000 liberals suddenly became conservatives. It was because 80,000 complacent liberals out of thei vast majority sat it out over a lackluster crown prince who botched the local Obamacare roll-out. The state didn’t get more conservative, it took a nap.

    In the 2014 elections Brown had 818,890 votes, Frosh had 935,846 votes. Voters didn't sit home. 117,000 D's and I's switched sides to vote for Hogan.

    Gov
    Hogan 884,400
    Brown 818,890
    Quinn 25,382
    Total 1,728,672

    AG
    Frosh 935,846
    Pritzker 682,265
    Dymowski 57,069
    Total 1,675,180

    Looks to me that 117,000 or so D's and I's who voted for Frosh voted for Hogan.
     

    eruby

    Confederate Jew
    MDS Supporter
    ’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
    Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
    All mimsy were the borogoves,
    And the mome raths outgrabe.



    Voting for Hogan is the smartest thing ANY Marylander can do.
    Voting for Hogan is the stupidest thing ANY Marylander can do.

    Who has had their mind changed by any of these threads?
     

    fred55

    Senior
    Aug 24, 2016
    1,773
    Spotsylvania Co. VA
    So, then there is no point in voting period? No point in telling the committee as an organized group or block of our displeasure? Hogan running for a third term isn't point.

    Every American citizen has the duty to vote! I got fed up with Maryland's political directions, not just 2A issues, and left the state. I consider myself lucky. Businesses stumble and fail because they do not provide what the customers want. The GOP party in MD is stumbling IMHO. I suspect Hogan ran the first election as a R because he didn't think he'd get full D support. If the PP at Annapolis Monday nights, testimony at the proposed bill hearings, and phone call and letter writing, didn't get the GOP and Hogans attention I doubt anything else will. I'm hoping MD gets straightened out, but not optimistic, they have too much in common with NY, NJ, CT, and CA. Hogan is not the only issue in MD. fred55
     

    Jim12

    Let Freedom Ring
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 30, 2013
    34,027
    If taxes go up the required amount to match the desires of BJ, you bet there will be many more conservative democrats. I live I Southern Maryland. Those democrats are pretty conservative by the big 3 standard (Baltimore, PG, Montgomery)

    Fiscally more conservative. Not socially or culturally.

    2A infringements don't cost money like social programs do.
     

    Jim12

    Let Freedom Ring
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 30, 2013
    34,027
    So if Hogan/GOP does not care how pro 2A voters regard him before the election, why do you think Hogan/GOP will care about them after the election? Hogan cannot run for governor a third term. fred55

    It's not about Hogan.

    It's about Jealous.
     

    Occam

    Not Even ONE Indictment
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 24, 2018
    20,389
    Montgomery County
    So, if Hogan gets re-elected and the GOP takes all contested seats, this sessions anti 2A bills get recalled? G&S includes self defense, and no new anti bills get signed by "MDA Larry" next four sessions, right? fred55

    None of those things getting better isn't the same as everything - EVERYTHING - getting wildly and quickly worse, and not just on the 2A front.
     

    CrazySanMan

    2013'er
    Mar 4, 2013
    11,390
    Colorful Colorado
    It's not about Hogan.

    It's about Jealous.

    You hit it dead center!

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    Jim12

    Let Freedom Ring
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    Jan 30, 2013
    34,027
    You can't keep voting for the ever-leftward-sliding lesser of two evils and expect positive change. It's not going to happen.

    If Jealous gets in and does all his socialist craziness people will have enough of it and he'll drive voters to the right.

    How do you think Hogan won? People were sick of 8 years of Owe Mao Li's far left BS and taxes and wanted something different.

    Hogan the candidate was a lot more conservative than Hogan the governor, and he still won by 80,000 votes.

    If we could have avoided O'Malley, FSA2013 wouldn't have happened.

    But now, you want 8 years of O'Malley II, to pick up where O'Malley left off, hoping that the liberal electorate will get sick of him and elect someone to undo the damage he does for the next 8 years? Someone who is also pro-2A in an anti-2A state?

    When pigs fly.
     

    CrazySanMan

    2013'er
    Mar 4, 2013
    11,390
    Colorful Colorado
    If we could have avoided O'Malley, FSA2013 wouldn't have happened.

    But now, you want 8 years of O'Malley II, to pick up where O'Malley left off, hoping that the liberal electorate will get sick of him and elect someone to undo the damage he does for the next 8 years? Someone who is also pro-2A in an anti-2A state?

    When pigs fly.

    Two ways to describe what I was saying there.

    1. The state needs to hit rock bottom in order to change. Jealous would pretty much be rock bottom.

    2. Stop thinking about the next 4 years and think 20 years from now. Hogan will lead to a continual left slide. Jealous will cause a springboard effect to the right. Think of it this way - the next governor after Jealous will be more conservative than whomever follows Hogan.

    And 3, just for S&G, what if Jealous wins two terms after Hogan? Then you get 12 years of bad luck instead of 4. :innocent0
     

    dist1646

    Ultimate Member
    May 1, 2012
    8,788
    Eldersburg
    Going back and forth about one person in office really isn't going to do a thing! It doesn't matter who sits in the Governor's mansion, as long as the legislature remains untouched and solidly in the hands of the democrat party! Nothing will ever change in this state until the parasites in the legislature are removed from their almost dictatorial power!
     

    teratos

    My hair is amazing
    MDS Supporter
    Patriot Picket
    Jan 22, 2009
    59,828
    Bel Air
    The GOP is expecting every single republican in Maryland to vote Hogan. So if suddenly 2,000 registered republicans write in "NO GUN GRABBERS", they'll get the message. 2,000 votes will not swing the election one way or the other, but it will be enough to get the point across to the MDGOP.

    You assume falsely that there is a bottom... What we assume to be bottom is just the beginning of 'normal' for the Liberal 'D' folks.
    Yep. Look at CA. Still sinking.
     

    Occam

    Not Even ONE Indictment
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 24, 2018
    20,389
    Montgomery County
    Who has had their mind changed by any of these threads?

    Obviously the out-of-state game players aren't going to stop playing games in which they have no stake. It's just armchair amusement.

    The only (and only marginally) compelling reason to hash through these things is to make sure that drive-by googlers (or very casual users here) and others banging into these threads aren't left only seeing calls to vote against Hogan and thus in support of Jealous, based on some flimsy premises that don't hold up to the sort of scrutiny that most drive-by visitors won't take the time to perform.
     

    Jim12

    Let Freedom Ring
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 30, 2013
    34,027
    Two ways to describe what I was saying there.

    1. The state needs to hit rock bottom in order to change. Jealous would pretty much be rock bottom.

    2. Stop thinking about the next 4 years and think 20 years from now. Hogan will lead to a continual left slide. Jealous will cause a springboard effect to the right. Think of it this way - the next governor after Jealous will be more conservative than whomever follows Hogan.

    And 3, just for S&G, what if Jealous wins two terms after Hogan? Then you get 12 years of bad luck instead of 4. :innocent0

    It hasn't worked that way anywhere else, and won't here either. Look at California, Chicago, Takoma Park and every other Leftist jurisdiction in the U.S., whether state, city, county, or municipal.

    Like I said: When pigs fly.

    Why don't you get involved in local Denver or Colorado politics and see whether you can get a Leftist-enough government elected where you live, so as to cause a total collapse of the Left, a shift to the Right, and thereby entice Magpul to move back to Colorado? I'll give you 20 years. :lol2:
     

    fidelity

    piled higher and deeper
    MDS Supporter
    Aug 15, 2012
    22,400
    Frederick County
    Gov
    Hogan 884,400
    Brown 818,890
    Quinn 25,382
    Total 1,728,672

    AG
    Frosh 935,846
    Pritzker 682,265
    Dymowski 57,069
    Total 1,675,180

    Looks to me that 117,000 or so D's and I's who voted for Frosh voted for Hogan.
    That's a pretty substantial middle section of folks voting for Hogan and Frosh - much larger than the MDS active user base. These are the voters that Hogan is triangulating for again. I don't think he's worried about losing voters that view 2A rights as a deterministic issue. The only place this might hurt him is in a (possible) future national run.

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    TexDefender

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 28, 2017
    1,572
    I guess I'm hoping that Maryland voters are more intelligent than California voters, they just need a good kick in the pants to make them open their eyes.

    I highly doubt that, just look at the 40 or 50 years Baltimore has been under the Democratic Party rule.
     

    StantonCree

    Watch your beer
    Jan 23, 2011
    23,932
    The GOP is expecting every single republican in Maryland to vote Hogan. So if suddenly 2,000 registered republicans write in "NO GUN GRABBERS", they'll get the message. 2,000 votes will not swing the election one way or the other, but it will be enough to get the point across to the MDGOP.

    If this is the case i formally suggest we get 5000 people to write in “Big Boobz) (with a Z)

    5000 votes won’t swing an election but maybe the MDGOP will give us more of what we want.......or maybe we will look foolish

    I’m voting for boaty McBoatFace
     

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