Go apply now.

mag360 · Mar 6, 2012

Not next week, not a month, now. It is not much *that* much money. I am from Sacramento, CA where our sheriff went "essentially shall issue" at the end of 2010. It became so backed up that within 4 months, there was a 6 month wait. After 11 months, the wait became so long that all appointments open for 2012 were booked through December 2012, and they closed opening any future appointments.

They will work through the backlog, eventually, but they are going very slow. Sacramento county is around 1.4 million people and so far there are ~2500 permits out, adding 40 a week to that.

The state may get a stay in the woolard case... Maybe they will, maybe they wont. But for now, you guys are shall issue so start applying!!

The more permits you have in circulation, the more people will continue to fight to keep them. Nobody will want to give up being able to protect themselves outside of their home once they start carrying.

So don't just stop at the forum members, tell your brother, sisters, girlfriends, mom, dad, cousins, grand parents, aunts, uncles, friends, etc and fill up that car of yours and go apply. :thumbsup:

iobidder · Mar 6, 2012

mag360 said:
Not next week, not a month, now. It is not much *that* much money. I am from Sacramento, CA where our sheriff went "essentially shall issue" at the end of 2010. It became so backed up that within 4 months, there was a 6 month wait. After 11 months, the wait became so long that all appointments open for 2012 were booked through December 2012, and they closed opening any future appointments.

They will work through the backlog, eventually, but they are going very slow. Sacramento county is around 1.4 million people and so far there are ~2500 permits out, adding 40 a week to that.

The state may get a stay in the woolard case... Maybe they will, maybe they wont. But for now, you guys are shall issue so start applying!!

The more permits you have in circulation, the more people will continue to fight to keep them. Nobody will want to give up being able to protect themselves outside of their home once they start carrying.

So don't just stop at the forum members, tell your brother, sisters, girlfriends, mom, dad, cousins, grand parents, aunts, uncles, friends, etc and fill up that car of yours and go apply.

Sad to say, but that is not reality, far from it. MSP will gladly still deny applications if you do not meet their current requirements. Until they get new directives to change, they won't.

I am amazed how many people are asking about applying, some have, but needless to say, if you didn't meet their requirements last week, you don't meet them now. But hey, weirder things have happened, I am encouraged to be proven wrong.

mag360 · Mar 6, 2012

they can't deny you for lack of "good and substantial reason", that was just thrown out. if and only if it is stayed, then the MSP would be able to deny you. A denial of "nobody has shown us new rules" won't hold up at all.

iobidder · Mar 6, 2012

mag360 said:
they can't deny you for lack of "good and substantial reason", that was just thrown out. if and only if it is stayed, then the MSP would be able to deny you. A denial of "nobody has shown us new rules" won't hold up at all.

Go apply!

mag360 · Mar 6, 2012

iobidder said:
Go apply!

If I lived in Maryland, I would.

iobidder · Mar 6, 2012

mag360 said:
If I lived in Maryland, I would.

Shucks

southern71 · Mar 6, 2012

You don't have to be a MD resident to apply.

mag360 · Mar 6, 2012

there are a few people from calguns.net that are applying. I never go to Maryland, so I'm not going to apply, but trust me, there are people out here in CA who are doing just that.

mrjam2jab · Mar 6, 2012

mag360 said:
If I lived in Maryland, I would.

Don't let that stop you. If you frequent MD then you have a reason to get one. Non-resident is not a dis qualifier.

Gray Peterson · Mar 6, 2012

iobidder said:
Sad to say, but that is not reality, far from it. MSP will gladly still deny applications if you do not meet their current requirements. Until they get new directives to change, they won't.

I am amazed how many people are asking about applying, some have, but needless to say, if you didn't meet their requirements last week, you don't meet them now. But hey, weirder things have happened, I am encouraged to be proven wrong.

That's not correct.

mag360 · Mar 6, 2012

hello Mr. Peterson!

iobidder · Mar 6, 2012

Gray Peterson said:
That's not correct.

Prove it...Until MSP gets its directives from Annapolis to change the requirements it will remain the same, and they can deny with no equivocation.

Gray Peterson · Mar 6, 2012

mag360 said:
hello Mr. Peterson!

Hi!

iobidder said:
Prove it...Until MSP gets its directives from Annapolis to change the requirements it will remain the same, and they ca deny with no equivocation.

I'm member of SAF. If the state police deny me without a stay in effect for lack of good & substantial cause, I can make a local phone call to the SAF folks just down 405 from me.

MDFF2008 · Mar 6, 2012

Do not apply if you cannot afford it. Food, rent, gas, childcare, these things come first.

Do not apply if you won't pass the background check.

But if you can and do apply, remember, MSP claims they approve 97% of applicants, because no one applies.

miben · Mar 6, 2012

I believe they will sit on the applications as they have sat on other issues, like the certified collector made up requirement for 2 regulated purchases. Then they will probably come up with a special Maryland training class requirement and deny pending applications for that reason. You pretty much know they will not do anything unless forced.

HardHatMan · Mar 6, 2012

This board has become awfully interesting in the past 2 days.

iobidder · Mar 6, 2012

Gray Peterson said:
I'm member of SAF. If the state police deny me without a stay in effect for lack of good & substantial cause, I can make a local phone call to the SAF folks just down 405 from me.

Not proving anything but much luck to you on that.

miben said:
You pretty much know they will not do anything unless forced.

That is pretty much where I am going with this.

lx1x · Mar 6, 2012

HardHatMan said:
This board has become awfully interesting in the past 2 days.

will be for few more... lot of traffic recently. :thumbsup:

jmcgonig · Mar 6, 2012

miben said:
I believe they will sit on the applications as they have sat on other issues, like the certified collector made up requirement for 2 regulated purchases. Then they will probably come up with a special Maryland training class requirement and deny pending applications for that reason. You pretty much know they will not do anything unless forced.

this... they won't deny because of G&S; they will hold for a stay or put some regulation in place.

but i'm thinking applying is still a good thing. i think they will be hard pressed to replace G&S w/ some class or other BS while your application is pending.

but IMHO there is a 99% chance your money is gone... at least this time

PS I'm still doing it FWIW

sixfivesavage · Mar 6, 2012

gprimr1 said:
Do not apply if you won't pass the background check.

It's nothing more than the check we already go through for a regulated firearm, right? Would a 45 day liscense suspension for violation of a restriction, ( read, under 21, alcohol restriction) from 6 years ago disqualify me?

I hope not, I want to apply and it didn't matter to Florida or Utah.

Go apply now.

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