SBR's in MD, ATF needs your help!

ride4frnt · Jan 28, 2015

awptickes said:
Well, fix it and resubmit!

Don't have a spare 200 dollars. If they allow me to resubmit with the original $200 I will, if not I'm waiting for a refund.

Wayne1one · Jan 28, 2015

ride4frnt said:
Don't have a spare 200 dollars. If they allow me to resubmit with the original $200 I will, if not I'm waiting for a refund.

Efile = you will be waiting for your refund before you resubmit.

bobthefisher · Jan 28, 2015

ride4frnt said:
Got a disapproval today on my form 1 for a stupid mistake i made. I put my name in 3b instead of the trust.

However, the disapproval notes say NOTHING about being illegal in maryland. Not sure if that means anything. Signature looks like Jason M. something, but very unreadable.

That's Mr. Dicken. Nice guy, however he's starting to hate dealing with MD residents and the SBR issue. I've bullshitted with him more then I care to admit. They still haven't gotten any word from their legal council, so my guess is they're still sitting on the applications. He assures me once he knows something, myself or the community will know something.

I'm way past sick of this BS. Maybe its a good case for raising the minimum wage, as that's what their legal council is probably getting.

I work with a bunch of govy branches, but this one is starting to become my favorite all time loser.

Where's my tax refund!

schnejerator · Jan 28, 2015

bobthefisher said:
I work with a bunch of govy branches, but this one is starting to become my favorite all time loser.

Agreed! I'd rather shop for health insur-

WTF never mind.

d_c · Jan 28, 2015

Well, here's some good news. I just got notified by email that two of my efile SBR Form 1s that have been on hold since October are now APPROVED.

Looks like Ted was the examiner. Hope this means others will soon follow!

genexd · Jan 29, 2015

That's great! I've been holding off till I heard of any progress. What got approved?

d_c · Jan 29, 2015

This was two recent purchase lowers, both submitted with a 30.5" overall length.

dgtaurus · Jan 29, 2015

I wonder if that one was just luck or the ATF finally read the law correctly..

tom b · Jan 29, 2015

dgtaurus said:
I wonder if that one was just luck or the ATF finally read the law correctly..

I also had 3 approved yesterday, and am waiting for 2 more form 1's.

awptickes · Jan 29, 2015

So people are getting recently purchased and longer than 29" approvals now?

Flipz · Jan 29, 2015

awptickes said:
So people are getting recently purchased and longer than 29" approvals now?

Yes

awptickes · Jan 29, 2015

Well, that's a plus. Now we just have to get them to acknowledge that rimfire shorter than 29" is legal.

swinokur · Jan 29, 2015

I'd be curious what the BATF Technology Branch thinks of MSP's assertion that an SBR is a rifle and a handgun at the same time.

Not that it matters.

Klunatic · Jan 29, 2015

tom b said:
I also had 3 approved yesterday, and am waiting for 2 more form 1's.

3 what approved? 31" OAL? Your post is missing a bit of critical info to the discussion at hand.

SWO Daddy · Jan 29, 2015

Oh man this is killing me. I've checked eforms 3 times already today, lol. I guess I can wait a bit longer.

Stoveman · Jan 29, 2015

Just got mine approved. :party29:

Submitted 11/10/14.

Sig M400 AR Pistol SBR >29.5"

Approved by Ted Clutter

d_c · Jan 29, 2015

And my fourth one just came in. Like Christmas in January.

Klunatic · Jan 29, 2015

cdb said:
And my fourth one just came in. Like Christmas in January.

4th What? OAL? :shrug:

d_c · Jan 29, 2015

Klunatic said:
4th What? OAL?

4th SBR Form 1 approval (over 29.5"). Ted's working late tonight, it seems.

bobthefisher · Jan 29, 2015

Yup! I called Mr. Dicken earlier this morning and he said most (whatever that means) everything is cleared up and to resubmit. He also said to reference your previous disapproval permit number and disapproval date.

I asked him about rimfire SBR's under 29 inches and he "believes" those are fine as well. He apparently needs an example before he can say for sure. They also know that individual Form 1's need not be on the handgun roster.

I've already resubmitted my less then 29 inch rimfire SBR with another cover letter stating its legality and my previous disapproval.

Thanks to everyone for their patience and I'll be personally celebrating at my local bar in Westminster with a celebratory SBR beer. :beer:

Special thanks to Cpl Edwards for not giving up on this issue. Truly one of MD's finest.

Cheers everyone!

SBR's in MD, ATF needs your help!

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