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TX ConCarry moving forward...
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krucam
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TX GOA has put out a nice FAQ flyer for going forward on Sept 1st. The Governor has not done anything on any of several pro-gun bills on his desk as of yet.
https://texas.gunowners.org/1927faq...poLNvrUqjZ9o2GcueEWKjR-fyzFcXJGQFvVlxU22BTC-4
https://texas.gunowners.org/1927faq...poLNvrUqjZ9o2GcueEWKjR-fyzFcXJGQFvVlxU22BTC-4
Kind of odd he hasn't signed after coming out and saying he would multiple times before it passed.
krucam
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He has had several bill signing events on Facebook. Con carry, TX Suppressors and 2A Sanctuary are all waiting for signature
Does TX have the equivalent of a "pocket veto"--- for bills that go unsigned after a certain period?
It's actually the opposite in Texas. If laws that are passed go unsigned, they become law by default, with or without the Governor's signature.
Keeping in mind of course that not everything on the internet is 100% true, I found this after some quick Google-fu:
https://courses.lumenlearning.com/a...t1/chapter/the-role-played-by-texas-governor/
krucam
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The Governor has until June 20th (3 weeks after hitting his desk) to either Sign or Veto. Doing neither and it automatically becomes law on Sept 1st.
I mentioned up-thread that Gov Abbott is going up for reelection next year. He's promised to sign Con Carry. It would be political suicide for him to Veto it now...
Not sure how many states have that. In WV we had actually passed Constitutional Carry a year before but since it was right at the end of the term the Then Governor was able to veto and the legislature couldn’t override without calling a special session which there was no appetite for.
krucam
Ultimate Member
GOA is saying that Governor Abbott will sign this into Law tomorrow (6/17). This should be a big news story Thursday…
krucam
Ultimate Member
Thursday, 11am CDT. This may happen at the Alamo in San Antonio according to some chatter…
krucam
Ultimate Member
It looks like the Governor didn’t want the Drama tomorrow…IT HAS BEEN SIGNED!
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/Actions.aspx?LegSess=87R&Bill=HB1927
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/Actions.aspx?LegSess=87R&Bill=HB1927
dogbone
Ultimate Member
Abbott did the "Official" signing today and will still hold a celebratory ceremony at the Alamo tomorrow. The public will not be admitted and the invitations to some of the 2A groups here seem to have been "lost in the mail." Pretty sure that Texas State Rifle Association will be represented by Maryland transplant Andi Turner, formerly of Delegate Mike's office.
Getting this bill passed took quite literally years of work. Similar bills had been filed in previous sessions with little to no apparent progress. Those filings and the lobbying for them did move the Overton Window towards gun rights and Constitutional or permitless carry was one of eight priorities set by the Republican Paty of Texas for the 87th session.
There was still stiff opposition from the Mad Mommies, appointed urban LEOs, and from Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (RINO) (a former Marylander) who claimed there were not enough votes in the Senate to move forward with the bill.
The House hearing saw hundreds testifying until nearly dawn the next morning. When the bill hit the House floor, Democrats offered several amendments. Most were attempts to kill or weaken the bill but several made the bill a cleaner and stronger declaration of rights.
When the bill reached the Senate, several more amendments were added. Some of them violated the House rules and could have caused a Point of Order to be sustained against it, killing the bill. Others stripped the beneficial Democrat amendments.
When the bill returned to the House, the dreaded Point of Order was raised but fortunately withdrawn when the bill author moved the House reject the changes made in the Senate and take the bill to a conference committee.
What emerged from the conference committee wasn't as pretty as one might hope but it was likely to be passed in both chambers. It made it through the House with some bipartisan votes and passed the Senate on a party line vote.
All during this long process, the grassroots kept a full court press going. Just showing up to testify and the occasional email or call to a legislator wasn't going to be enough. Many put in two or more days a week at the Capitol, hand delivering letters to committee members or, in at least one case, to the entire membership of the Senate. Office visits became a routine part of any day at the Capitol, with good relationships being formed between 2A activists and the staffers. Catching a legislator in the hallway for a quick talk took a mix of good timing and luck but paid off in the end.
Those too distant from Austin to make frequent visits possible kept up a constant stream of letters, emails and phone calls. You may question the value of the one or two calls an individual might make but when the full force of millions of Texas gun owners is unleashed, it becomes enough for several legislators to begin begging for the calls to stop.
Tomorrow, Governor Greg Abbott will hold a private little celebration and ceremony. He will don the mantle of Defender of Gun Rights. He doesn't deserve to wear it. That belongs to all the grassroots advocates who did the real work to get the bill passed.
Getting this bill passed took quite literally years of work. Similar bills had been filed in previous sessions with little to no apparent progress. Those filings and the lobbying for them did move the Overton Window towards gun rights and Constitutional or permitless carry was one of eight priorities set by the Republican Paty of Texas for the 87th session.
There was still stiff opposition from the Mad Mommies, appointed urban LEOs, and from Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (RINO) (a former Marylander) who claimed there were not enough votes in the Senate to move forward with the bill.
The House hearing saw hundreds testifying until nearly dawn the next morning. When the bill hit the House floor, Democrats offered several amendments. Most were attempts to kill or weaken the bill but several made the bill a cleaner and stronger declaration of rights.
When the bill reached the Senate, several more amendments were added. Some of them violated the House rules and could have caused a Point of Order to be sustained against it, killing the bill. Others stripped the beneficial Democrat amendments.
When the bill returned to the House, the dreaded Point of Order was raised but fortunately withdrawn when the bill author moved the House reject the changes made in the Senate and take the bill to a conference committee.
What emerged from the conference committee wasn't as pretty as one might hope but it was likely to be passed in both chambers. It made it through the House with some bipartisan votes and passed the Senate on a party line vote.
All during this long process, the grassroots kept a full court press going. Just showing up to testify and the occasional email or call to a legislator wasn't going to be enough. Many put in two or more days a week at the Capitol, hand delivering letters to committee members or, in at least one case, to the entire membership of the Senate. Office visits became a routine part of any day at the Capitol, with good relationships being formed between 2A activists and the staffers. Catching a legislator in the hallway for a quick talk took a mix of good timing and luck but paid off in the end.
Those too distant from Austin to make frequent visits possible kept up a constant stream of letters, emails and phone calls. You may question the value of the one or two calls an individual might make but when the full force of millions of Texas gun owners is unleashed, it becomes enough for several legislators to begin begging for the calls to stop.
Tomorrow, Governor Greg Abbott will hold a private little celebration and ceremony. He will don the mantle of Defender of Gun Rights. He doesn't deserve to wear it. That belongs to all the grassroots advocates who did the real work to get the bill passed.
krucam
Ultimate Member
Wow - Nebraska didn't go to "shall issue" from "no issue" until 2006. I had no idea that it was like that in my home state.
Overall it looks like gun laws in the country are getting better, although I wonder how much of that was in response to the the AWB of 1997.
Maryland still sucks though.
Overall it looks like gun laws in the country are getting better, although I wonder how much of that was in response to the the AWB of 1997.
Maryland still sucks though.
- Nov 11, 2009
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I think much of it was due to the constant pressure for more gun control, leading up to rumps election, when many people chose to arm themselves in advance of a Hillary victory, and then the burning down of many larger cities in the peaceful riots of 2020, in the lead-up to the Biden stolen election, and his subsequent attack on conservatives.
Meanwhile, politicians whose success involves seeing where their voters are going, and then "leading" them to their chosen destination, noted the massive arming-up of formerly docile citizens. At the state level, fighting against this would not be a winning strategy.
The gradual change from No-issue to Shall-issue and Con Carry demonstrated the flaws in the "Wild West, Blood in the Streets" claims, and smoothed the transitions.
Outside of a handful of hard-left states, the impetus is toward a less restrictive stance on firearms ownership. Whether the media can create sufficient panic to slow or reverse this trend is doubtful, especially if the rioting squads gear up for the 2022 midterms by some more of their peaceful destruction.
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