HPRB Meeting 25 November

Stoveman · Nov 25, 2019

This thread will be used to discuss the HPRB meeting of 25 November, 2019.

I got word that there is at least one interesting case tonight, planning on going and will as usual report here.

pbharvey · Nov 25, 2019

Thank you.

V-tac · Nov 25, 2019

Thank you

Stoveman · Nov 25, 2019

Shafted is here with me as well as Ed Hershon who is representing a client before the board tonight.

The board does have a quorum, Judge Smails, the MoCo attorney and Silent Jacque.

Taylor and Bonell on the bump for the MSP.

Something new is the seating arrangements, there are now round tables staggered around the room like you would find at a wedding reception.

welder516 · Nov 25, 2019

Maybe they have a open bar & oyster bar

Stoveman · Nov 25, 2019

Because he likes to hear himself speak, Smails just announced that the meeting would start in 1 minute and that there were male and female urinals in the rear of the room.

Stoveman · Nov 25, 2019

First up, applicant had a permit for years issued for the transportation of machine guns.

Stoveman · Nov 25, 2019

Smails just asked Bonell if he categorized a machine gun matter as a handgun permit?

Stoveman · Nov 25, 2019

B said that the applicant used to work for Duffy’s and since he is no longer employed he was denied. Applicant says that this is inaccurate.

Stoveman · Nov 25, 2019

Applicant is explaining that his prior permit was issued for protection while transporting his machine guns.

Stoveman · Nov 25, 2019

Smails is an idiot, he just asked if while transporting the machine guns weren’t they in cases and out of view? Applicant explained that they draw attention at a range and could be followed and robbed afterwards. Judge said that of course guns draw attention at a range.

Stoveman · Nov 25, 2019

B says that the applicant put himself into the position of owning a machine gun by choice and so they don’t issue permits for protection in those situations. Smails asked the applicant if he knew that he didn’t need a permit to transport firearms?

Stoveman · Nov 25, 2019

Smails just acted like he was Solomon and said that it seemed to him that a good solution would be to issue a permit for the applicant when he was transporting machine guns. B responded with “that’s pretty much what he had”.

Stoveman · Nov 25, 2019

Applicant prevails.

Gryphon · Nov 25, 2019

Sounds like the Chairman was channeling Charles Thomas, probabaly read Johnny Owe’s treatise on “guns are bad.”i

Stoveman · Nov 25, 2019

Next applicant is a FF/EMT for Baltimore City, 17 years in.

Applied for a permit two years ago, Nat Guard, S clearance and was granted a permit. Helped build a POW camp in Iraq.

Stoveman · Nov 25, 2019

Applicant met with a trooper investigator at Westminster (of course) and the investigator told him that what was G&S two years ago wasn’t G&S now.

Stoveman · Nov 25, 2019

Taylor explaining that the current SOP doesn’t allow permits for S clearance.

Stoveman · Nov 25, 2019

Applicant stated, and B backed up, that there were four City FFs attached to the Tac teams that had permits for personal protection because they were on those teams. Applicant stated that the only difference between he and them was that they were on the tail end of the stack but performed the same duties that he did.

Stoveman · Nov 25, 2019

No soup for this applicant.

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