davsco
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man i caught a snippet of an AWB on the news and figured it was newly elected northam spouting off. as a virginian, glad i was apparently wrong, but sorry for you marylanders.
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Actually - I feel sorry for you. Read this:
https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/pu...eases?id=8B3E8400-766E-4B5E-B59B-C800BB52A973
iH8DemLibz
When All Else Fails.
None of this Gun Grabbing nonsense will ever make it to Trump's desk.
Rich1911
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It doesn't have to...
Agreed to a point, but I am worried that the country will take a hard left turn and this will be an issue in the future. Say the house and senate have lefties in power in 2018 - they certainly can potentially (and probably do it to happily prove their agenda) override a Trump veto. Let's also put our efforts where we need to. The provisions of this AWB at the federal level are actually WORSE than what we are dealing with in MD as law (2 features vs. 1). And you better believe there will be no sunset provision included. Another example, if Trump and congress get SAFE passed, don't you think that the MD assembly will make suppressors illegal at the state level? They can do that now if they wanted to. We have to be very smart in the next few years.
People in other states need to pay attention regardless.
iH8DemLibz
When All Else Fails.
Please explain.
iH8DemLibz
When All Else Fails.
2/3rds in both houses is a tough row to hoe.
davsco
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oh crap! hopefully above is correct and this won't go anywhere. hey, at least they're letting us keep what we have...
5.56blaster
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We are going to Alabama. I will be so happy to see Maryland in my rear view mirror!
True - but I am discouraged at what happened in Virginia (and other states) at the state level yesterday. Here is hoping that that trend does not play out.
Never give an inch. Letting us keep isn't any consolation or any thing to be happy about. History shows us in the US and other countries that keeping can be changed to forfeit in 30 days or become a criminal. Say you are at the range and shooting next to a cop - how do you prove your mag is legit? Its just bad all the way around when it comes to stuff like this. Death by a 1000 cuts. We can't be complacent at all as others have said - don't budge at all.
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And you can be certain what the answer will be when Hogan asks Frosh for an opinion on its constitutionality ...
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smokey
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https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u...._20_murder_by_state_types_of_weapons_2013.xls
this table seems to be useful for any discussion about banning rifles because of the dangers they pose to society....check md rifle deaths in 2013....
but smokey... that data's old
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/table-12
ok...2. In 2016, 2 people were killed with a rifle. 21 people were killed with "hands/fists/feet"
this table seems to be useful for any discussion about banning rifles because of the dangers they pose to society....check md rifle deaths in 2013....
but smokey... that data's old
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/table-12
ok...2. In 2016, 2 people were killed with a rifle. 21 people were killed with "hands/fists/feet"
As sad as this makes me I'm not surprised in the least.
MigraineMan
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"That’s 89 mass shootings in the last 30 years that snuffed out the lives of more than 700 people. "
Hell, that's nothing. Step ladders kill 300 people and injure another 164,000 ... EVERY YEAR. In the same 30-year window, 9000 people were killed by step-ladder violence (might as well call it what it is.)
From 2005-2014, there were an average of 3,536 fatal unintentional drownings (non-boating related) annually in the United States; an additional 332 people died each year from drowning in boating-related incidents. That's 34,812 deaths in a 9-year window ... equivalent to 116,040 in 30 years. Drowning violence appears to be more than two orders of magnitude more significant than mass shooting violence.
We could save a hell of a lot more lives by teaching people to swim versus trying to ban evil scary black rifles. (But you and I know this has nothing to do with public safety and everything to do with control.)
Oh okay, OP said "our state" senators so I thought he was talking about his local ones. I see now
TheOriginalMexicanBob
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Not that the Democrats wouldn't love to get the ban through (and ban all guns if they could), but they know they won't get either through. What this is about is getting the bills defeated or vetoed on the federal or state level so they have an issue to beat the Republicans with. It's about issues and fundraising. The Dems really don't care about reducing criminal use of firearms nearly as much as they want issues to fundraise on.
Damn straight! What about car accidents? Those #’s are typically staggering, compared to gun violence. Good post Migraine Man.
We have to keep in mind though that the defense to that statistic is that far more people have acess to and use step ladders and swimming pools than to firearms. So in essence its the proportion that matters moreso than the deaths.
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