Md shotgun purchase vs Va etc.

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Pale Ryder

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My question pertains to long arms purchases in Md.
Is it the same process, NICS check for purchase as one would do in Va. or does Md use more databases? Whatever happened with the Form 77r?

 

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iH8DemLibz

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77r for shotgun?

 

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d33rhunt3r

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77r is for handguns

 

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Pale Ryder said:

My question pertains to long arms purchases in Md.
Is it the same process, NICS check for purchase as one would do in Va. or does Md use more databases? Whatever happened with the Form 77r?

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Same as VA, cash and carry fill out a 4473, enjoy.

 

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Pale Ryder

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Ok thanks. Been awhile since I purchased in Md. My last two purchases were in Va., but prior to those I thought Md did another check.
Perhaps I was thinking of handgun in one and rifle in another.

 

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ken792

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In MD, the FFL runs a NICS check since MD is a point of sale state for long guns.

VA is a point of contact state where VSP runs all background checks for the FFLs. I believe they just run NICS, but they do apply VA prohibiting factors which are slightly different from MDs. In addition to the Form 4473, you also fill out the VSP form authorizing the background check and pay $2 (or $5 as a non resident) to process the check. VA also requires two forms of ID for nonresidents.

 

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TylerFirearms

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d33rhunt3r said:

77r is for handguns

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The form 77R is for regulated firearms, not just handguns. AR15 lowers and AK47 lowers are regulated in Maryland, as well. It makes no sense, but I️ don’t make the laws... LOL

 

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TylerFirearms said:

The form 77R is for regulated firearms, not just handguns. AR15 lowers and AK47 lowers are regulated in Maryland, as well. It makes no sense, but I️ don’t make the laws... LOL

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Oh yeah, you're right.


I should know this since I just had to do a 77r for my factory SBR.....

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I don't remember paying anything extra or filling out any additional forms for my purchase in VA as a MD resident

 

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Pale Ryder

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Maybe the confusion is coming from me. So let me clarify some. Why can you purchase say a Mossberg Shotgun /SKS etc. from a dealer in Va or Md same paperwork, or 4473. If you (I) want to purchase an AR 15, has to go through Md? If want to purchase AR 10 it is ok? Same 4473? Va. or Md.!

 

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TylerFirearms

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Pale Ryder said:

Maybe the confusion is coming from me. So let me clarify some. Why can you purchase say a Mossberg Shotgun /SKS etc. from a dealer in Va or Md same paperwork, or 4473. If you (I) want to purchase an AR 15, has to go through Md? If want to purchase AR 10 it is ok? Same 4473? Va. or Md.!

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AR15 rifles and AR10 rifles are cash and carry as any other long gun (4473, NICS and done). Some dealers in other states won't sell an AR15 to a Maryland resident because they aren't sure of the laws. That is there choice as the dealer, not the law. Some won't sell because of the standard capacity 30-round magazines that come with most AR15 rifles. Again, there choice, not law.

AR15 lower receivers are regulated in Maryland, not in other states.

 

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Any long gun you purchase in VA has to be legal if you purchase the same thing in MD. (No standard barrel AR, no AK, etc.) Anything you can purchase cash & carry from a MD dealer can also be purchased cash & carry from a VA dealer, 4473, NICS, pay the man and go home with your new gun.

 

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Pale Ryder

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Thanks Tyler and others. I think it was just the dealer in Va didn't care about sale. SG would be fine, but AR type wanted to go through Md FFL . Thanks again.

 

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TylerFirearms

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Pale Ryder said:

Thanks Tyler and others. I think it was just the dealer in Va didn't care about sale. SG would be fine, but AR type wanted to go through Md FFL . Thanks again.

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It’s not that they don’t care about the sale, it’s just they don’t want to violate our confusing laws and end up in hot water. That wouldn’t happen, but a business owner can have whatever policies they want. Transferring to a MD dealer means they complied with federal law and the MD dealer has the responsibility to comply with MD law.

 

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Pale Ryder said:

Maybe the confusion is coming from me. So let me clarify some. Why can you purchase say a Mossberg Shotgun /SKS etc. from a dealer in Va or Md same paperwork, or 4473. If you (I) want to purchase an AR 15, has to go through Md? If want to purchase AR 10 it is ok? Same 4473? Va. or Md.!

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You do the same 4473.

If in VA, you fill out another form for VSP.