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View Poll Results: Wearing gloves while cleaning guns or using petroleum products.
Good advice, I use or plan to use rubber, latex, other gloves while using these products. 32 46.38%
Everything causes cancer, it's too late for me and I won't bother. 30 43.48%
I'm an a$$hole; I don't care, but just wanted to vote. 7 10.14%
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Old May 16th, 2017, 08:15 PM #1
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Wear gloves while using petroleum products.

Wear gloves while using petroleum products.


This past Saturday, a highly respected, senior member of one of my gun clubs gave us this message.

He recently survived his bout with cancer.

He's an expert in many things, including guns; mostly a long gun guy.

It was an honor to have him back at one of our events after months of treatment and recovery.

Among his many words of wisdom were, always wear gloves when you clean your guns.
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? Did the solvents and lube leach into his system and contribute to the cancer?

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? Did the solvents and lube leach into his system and contribute to the cancer?

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Cancer aside, I wear gloves now due to the lingering smell.
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He patently said that petroleum based chemicals were the cause of his cancer.

Apparently he had been working (unprotected) with them for years.

Very sad, but he underwent treatment, (actually resigning as a club officer at that time), but now says he's in full remission.

Our friend was back to himself, full strength, he even sold a few of us some of us ammo reserve/misc-extras. We were honored to have him back. He drove several hours to join us.

Wonderful man, in every regard.
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Cancer aside, I wear gloves now due to the lingering smell.
Great advice.

I think I've grown accustom to the smell. There's a thread about this somewhere.
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I am skeptical of one thing though.

I don't think it can really be proven that the cancer was caused by that.
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I don't wear gloves most of the time but I am careful to try and keep my hands clear of the bulk of the chemicals. I wash them promptly when done, too.

People don't understand the potential for unrealized dangers of modern chemistry. We won't know about some things until the people who came in to contact with them get older and start to get sick. For example its a poor idea to let your hands get bathed in motor oil when changing it. Gasoline is another one, lot of different chemicals in gasoline. It can't possibly be any good for you.
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I shudder to think how many times I used gas to wash car grease, oil & brake dust off my hands or to kill poison ivy rash as a teenager...just like I saw my pops do when learning how to rebuild cars and motors. Between that, the talc in my shoes and grilled red meat, I'm prolly a goner myself!
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I am skeptical of one thing though.

I don't think it can really be proven that the cancer was caused by that.
Agreed.

But he was convinced, and said so unambiguously.

He related that it was a known, but largely covered up hazard.

I'm thinking about the beginning of time when people started to realize that smoking was actually harmful.


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I don't wear gloves most of the time but I am careful to try and keep my hands clear of the bulk of the chemicals. I wash them promptly when done, too.

People don't understand the potential for unrealized dangers of modern chemistry. We won't know about some things until the people who came in to contact with them get older and start to get sick. For example its a poor idea to let your hands get bathed in motor oil when changing it. Gasoline is another one, lot of different chemicals in gasoline. It can't possibly be any good for you.
When I attended the USSS FITC (long ago), they were in my opinion hyper vigilant about all things safety. This was the first time in my career that I ever wore DOUBLE hearing protection (actually understood why), and we washed our hands after every shooting exercise or event. But no mention of wearing gloves while cleaning firearms.

I often wear normal gloves while shooting, and wash my hands after shooting or before eating; but never really thought to wear gloves if I were cleaning or lubing a firearm.
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Maybelline and Vaseline are petro products... Just sayin.
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I respect his cause, but I would want proof of some type. Shooting a firearm and working at a range can be hazardous of one is not careful.

My understanding is that unfouled petroleum products are rather harmless. When you have burnt fuel deposits, carbon, metals, and lead fouling suspended in the process that it becomes a risk.

Use some hippy bio based lube and don't wear gloves and the risk of being exposed to carcinogens is no different.

One should use gloves when cleaning, regardless of the cleaner or lubricant used.
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I remember heavy gun lube for the Bradley bushmaster had warnings on them, which were frankly ignored because C'mon, everything causes cancer, twice as fast in California. Try not to eat the stuff or wear it everyday and you should be A-OK.
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Wear gloves while using petroleum products.

Good advice...

It's probably too late for me, but I will buy some gloves this week...
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These for light duty tasks:
Violet Nitrile Exam Gloves - Size Large - 200 count https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01G491WJI..._2xniZdh3wdIZN

These for more demanding tasks like oil changes:
TIGER GRIP 7 mil superior grip Orange Nitrile Gloves - Large,100 count https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FSLV1TU..._rddhzbWFTZ4N3
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I try to use gloves whenever I work on my cars, but I still end up with oil and grease all over my hands and arms. I've gone through quite a bit of Goop in my lifetime.
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I've been using gloves when cleaning firearms for a few years now, if only to keep off the residual smell of whatever I'm using at the time. The potential health benefit is nice, as well.
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i am not sure petroleum products cause cancer in everyone. i work mostly in automotive shops where petroleum products are everywhere. i am sure they are not good for our health. but imo not everyone who comes into contact with them will get cancer. there are probably other variables like family history and the type of chemical.
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Why stop at gloves? Better wear an SCBA while you shoot.
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I frequently do , but bottom line comes down to specific products, and specific task.

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