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Old July 3rd, 2017, 10:13 PM #1
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Are manufacturers missing out on a home defense revolver market?

Went shooting with my gal for the first time this weekend. She never shot before and has a never fired '95 Walther P22 someone gave her a long time ago. It's Md., she'll never CCW but has some interest in home defense.

She was ok with the P22 (although everything except CCI mini-mag jammed about 1x per 10). She was very accurate with my Ruger Mark III, loved it and ran many rounds through that. She tried my Taurus M66. It was a bit snappy for her but she grouped well for a beginner with the American Eagle 38 plinkers. She could not operate the slide at all on my Ruger SR9c. She's in good shape, exercises daily but at 115 lbs, just isn't strong. I know some people might be a similar weight and can operate a slide, but she's not one of them. She wants to go back again but I can tell she doesn't like dealing with the slide, even on the P22, and probably will never practice enough that a semi-auto would be a good home defense option for her.

It got me thinking there are a lot of people like her, not comfortable with a slide, won't learn "tap rack and roll" well enough for distress situations, don't want to load magazines. They may practice, but not regularly. They want simplicity - no safeties, no mags, no slides, and little recoil. To me the product for that market is a revolver in 22 or possibly 38 with low recoil loads. And manufacturers deliver a lot of 22 and 38 CCW models to that and other market segments. But I'm surprised manufacturers have not attempted a home defense revolver in something light like 38 spl.

For "home defense" I mean has rails for light and optics, has just enough heft and size to be easy to shoot, is optimized for short distance (whatever size and cost trade-offs that might buy), and has the highest capacity possible. One possibility is a med-large but very light 38 spl built on an alloy or poly frame and a large cylinder that maybe pushes the envelop to 9 rounds. This market would not want 357, so maybe another round (or two?) could fit.

I know about S&W TRR8 and R8 (in fact I love them and want to get one) but I'm thinking something that doesn't start at $1200 and having more manufacturers to choose from. And those two models are both built for 357, I'm talking 38+P tops.

Doesn't it seem like an untapped market?
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Old July 3rd, 2017, 10:27 PM #2
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I think the biggest problem with the suggested idea is a revolver with 9+/- capacity. .22 yes there are quite a few options in that range but 38/9mm 6 is probably as reasonable as it can get from a cylinder to size ratio compared to a semi auto.
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I have thought the same thing. My wife can work the slide on my p95 however shes not always quick doing it. I would love to find a good 9mm revolver with a rail for a light.
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Consider the S&W 351PD, 7 rounds of .22 mag.

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I'm with you on the wish for a railed revolver. I've been tempted to try something on my own, but fortunately other things have kept me too busy to screw up one of my revolvers.

For a home defense revolver that a lady (or anyone) could also enjoy at the range, I'm pretty hung up on this:

http://ruger.com/products/sp101/specSheets/5771.html

It's got a four inch barrel and nice big adjustable sights, so targets (paper or threat) can be easily hit. You have the option of .38sp for range time, and maybe your first defensive round or so with full house .357 potential for when things get really serious. It's not as cumbersome as a GP100, but still heavy enough to soak up a lot of recoil. My wife can handle it just fine and it even works in my fat hands. It's a Ruger, so you know it isn't going to break. The only drawback (except for the lack of rail) is the 5 round capacity. get two of them. Or, she can use it to fight her way to her HD longgun.
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S&w trr8 has a rail. Scandium frame 8 shot 357 but you could always just throw 38spl in it. It's an N frame so the grip may be to big.
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I think that if the person wants to be able to defend their lives with a handgun, there should continue to practice. This isn't a game, this could be life and death. SD is not going out to the range and throwing lead at a target. Whoever is going to be counting on their firearm to save their lives should have enough thought to practice, practice and practice more. Do it seriously, do it with meaning and conviction.

Far too many people buy a handgun for SD in the home. They go out 1-5 times when they first get the firearm and really don't have a clue as to how to practice. Then they put the firearm in the nightstand. Never to ever properly prepare for the one in a lifetime instance where their life may depend on their actions.

I know I've gone off the thread topic, but this is one of my biggest pet peeves.

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I think an old SW hand ejector would fit the bill.
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Revolvers suck. They've been outclassed since the 1911 hit the market.
Now are there people that may want a revolver for HD? Sure but they're for the vast majority uneducated and undertrained.

Take my mother for example. She can't work the slide effectively on a Glock but can shoot it effectively. Solution? She has my 9mm Glock with a 33 round mag (she purchased in PA) filled with Federal HST's. Why? Because the Glock is more reliable and recoils less than her 4" Model 13-2 and has a Streamlight TLR-1 HL with a remote contour switch. She's confident and that's all that matters.
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So, you want to reinvent the wheel, I mean reinvent the medium frame 4in .38spl revolver ? The one that was the predominate service revolver for 80 plus years, and has millions of them in circulation ?
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