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Old December 6th, 2017, 08:22 PM #1
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16” .308 or 22” 6.5 Creedmoor?

Looking for a good rifle to use for deer hunting on my 16 acre farm, maybe even for hunting trips later on.. Rifle I’m looking at is in various packages and narrowed it down to the 2 smallest in both 6.5 and .308
Perfect world would be smallest lightest package, less recoil the better, cheaper ammo the better.. Also to add it will be suppressed (leaning towards a SilencerCo omega 30 cal can which will add 7” in length) to target shoot semi often, preferably to keep the neighbors happy and not have to double down with ear protection (note I havent pissed off any neighbors with hobby so far and want to keep it that way!)

In my short time of reading so far.. The battle of the heavyweights looks like the following

Cheaper Ammo (*I don’t reload)
.308 easily (especially with surplus ammo)

Lighter chassis
.308 version 6.9lbs with 16” configuration (7.5lbs with 20” 6.5 CM model)

Accuracy in most all conditions with range out to 1,000yds
6.5 CM particularly beyond 500yds with less than ideal conditions

Shooting Suppressed (closest to being hearing safe)
.308 (easily with subs)
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Old December 6th, 2017, 08:42 PM #2
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If you are planning to shoot subs, it's going to be worthless to go with the 6.5. Honestly, you might as well pick up a 300 blk.

I think a big question is how far do you think you will be shooting? If you are planning to hunt or shoot out past 3-400 yards, the 6.5 starts to get more interesting.

There doesn't seem to be much difference in price between hunting ammo for either gun. The surplus 308 is nice to have access to but it's not precision ammo and not a great hunting round.
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either cal is fine for deer on 16 acres. while the 6.5 isn't necessarily more "accurate" than the 308, you can generally get lower ballistic coefficient bullets/rounds which will shoot a little flatter but more importantly have less wind drift, so more margin for error. the 308 with a little more knockdown power (kinetic energy) will open up larger game opportunities.
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Ammo

Simple.

The 6.5 CM is the current darling of the "shooters" who don't know any better.

If you don't reload then you should know 6.5 CM is not available around every gun shop or Walmart.

the 308 is available everywhere for cheap.

If you are really going to shoot long range regularly then get the 6.5 CM (and learn to reload)

Otherwise stick with with the round that ain't going away in the next 20 years.
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If you are planning to shoot subs, it's going to be worthless to go with the 6.5. Honestly, you might as well pick up a 300 blk.

I think a big question is how far do you think you will be shooting? If you are planning to hunt or shoot out past 3-400 yards, the 6.5 starts to get more interesting.

There doesn't seem to be much difference in price between hunting ammo for either gun. The surplus 308 is nice to have access to but it's not precision ammo and not a great hunting round.
Ultimately just wanted the versatility, but I can easily see myself picking up whichever caliber I forego now and getting the other in a different model next year..such as a Rem 700 or RPR

I also considered a .300 BLK upper to swap on my pistol or carbine

I do realize that the 6.5cm fanboy crowd is growing and very loud and proud at the moment but could just as quickly disappear over the next decade.
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I have a mossberg MVP lc in 308 in the classifieds. Hit me up
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I love my 16" .308 AR. Weighs in at about 8lbs without a magazine in it. Very handy gun. Love my 18" precision .308 bolt rifle, too. Also pretty handy. Can't wait for the form 4 to come back on the can I am going to put on it. 6.5 creedmoor is an outstanding round, but the diversity and availability of .308 ammo won out for this non-reloader. I want a 6.5 creedmoor gun someday, though.
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Note that 6.5 has been around it migrated from Europe and growing here in the US.

JMO if you want Versatility 7.62x51/308 is the Route I would take and took.
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The best hunting rifle I have ever owned is my .308 BAR.

I hunt in the west, where shots tend to be longer, but I have never shot at a deer over 150 yards in 12 years of hunting. It is a whole lot easier to make even a 400 yard shot with a keyboard than an actual rifle.

Long range shooting is a whole different ballgame than hunting and you might want to get a different rifle for that sport.

You say you might make hunting trips. That is exactly why I went with .308. I can buy it anywhere I want to hunt in the US. And with a little effort I can get 150, 165 or 180 grain bullets. 150s are more common in deer hunting areas, but I prefer the 180s just in case a bear or a cougar shows up. I have never lost a deer I have hit with a 180 grain .308, and most are only one shot.
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I don't think the 6.5 is going anywhere. It may lose some steam, but the industry is fully backing it and it's popular among the reloaders, non-reloaders, hunters and competition shooters. It's not as easy to get as .308, but it aint exactly hard either.

Some of the secondary considerations are barrel life, "cheap" ammo, and recoil. Of course, you can mitigate some of that but, ballistically, the 6.5 makes the .308 look silly.
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