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Old December 6th, 2017, 04:17 PM #1
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S446 Senate National Reciprocity Act

Introduced by Senator Cornyn. I thought it deserves it's own thread as HR 38 was passed today

The Senate version differs from HR 38 in that it does require a home state permit for a resident of that state to carry in their home state
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Introduced by Senator Cornyn. I thought it deserves it's own thread as HR 38 is being voted on today

The Senate version differs from HR 38 in that it does require a home state permit for a resident of that state to carry in their home state
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That will be a lock if any chance at all..
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The Senate version needs to be reconciled with the house version. The Senate version leaves us hanging out to dry with the change.
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HR 38 passed
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That will be a lock if any chance at all..
I donít think so. There are several States that are constitutional carry so the way I see it there are a couple options:
1 those states will have to issue licenses
2 Senate will have to match House version so the Constitutional carry state citizens can get a non resident license to carry everywhere else in the US
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Another possibility here is that the senate passes only fix nics, it goes to conference where 1 of 2 things happen.

1) senate passed bill gets reciprocity added to it to match the house bill

2)house bill is stripped of reciprocity to match the senate bill.

Then whatever they do (1 or 2) will go back to each chamber to be voted on for final passage.


What I don't know is if when it comes back does the senate still need 60 votes for cloture again or can they just pass with simple majority.

If it is just simple majority I could see them going with option 1 to get it through.

If senate does require 60 vote cloture on the conference report I could see them screwing us and going with option 2
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I donít think so. There are several States that are constitutional carry so the way I see it there are a couple options:
1 those states will have to issue licenses
2 Senate will have to match House version so the Constitutional carry state citizens can get a non resident license to carry everywhere else in the US
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I don’t think so. There are several States that are constitutional carry so the way I see it there are a couple options:
1 those states will have to issue licenses NO
2 Senate will have to match House version so the Constitutional carry state citizens can get a non resident license to carry everywhere else in the US
The Senate bill provides protection for residents of CC states, like HR 38 did. Residents of those states need only provide a photo ID in another state. No NR permit required

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These bills are for reciprocity laws.

They're not, run rough shod over states that don't want to issue a carry permit, laws. We'd be better off with National Concealed Carry bills being pushed.

Reciprocity may pass.

But there is nothing in the law that will compel Maryland, and other states, to suddenly hand out carry permits.
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These bills are for reciprocity laws.

They're not, run rough shod over states that don't want to issue a carry permit, laws.

Reciprocity may pass.

But there is nothing in the law that will compel Maryland, and other states, to suddenly hand out carry permits.
That is technically correct. Of course, the General Assembly will then be confronted with the reality that the citizens of 42 states with shall issue permitting system will be able to carry in Maryland, while the citizens of Maryland will not be able to. That may become politically untenable, even for the antis.
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