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Old July 24th, 2017, 09:32 AM #251
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Wouldn't you still have a rep even if you are a civvy contractor?


And no, it was not obvious that you sent in an appeal, my Magic 8 Ball is in the shop.
I'm sorry. They denied my permit because I'm no longer in the military. Yes my clearance was verified.

I just figured it went without saying I sent in an appeal if I was posting on a gun board...
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Old July 24th, 2017, 09:36 AM #252
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I'm sorry. They denied my permit because I'm no longer in the military. Yes my clearance was verified.

I just figured it went without saying I sent in an appeal if I was posting on a gun board...


No worries, you would be surprised at how many have been denied and don't realize that they can appeal or have a shot at winning if they do.


How long ago was this if you don't mind saying?
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Old October 5th, 2017, 11:49 AM #253
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Just wanted to update everyone on my permit process thus far.

I went to my informal review where 1SG sustained the denial back in July. I immediately reacted asking for a HPRB hearing (formal hearing) which I complete this past tuesday (OCT 3). The Board saw fit that I indeed had G&S and overturned the MDSP to issue an unrestricted permit. G&S can be found below. Thanks.

1. For any lawful purpose;

2. OPM data breach, Due to the recent hacking of the Office of Personnel Management System database, which I am apart of, is currently being sold Online which contains all but not limited to the following information contained on the SF86; A. Current security clearances held, B. current address of work, C. current address of residence, D. physical description as well as immediate family members, E. military history. F. Full name, G. Social Security number, H. date and place of birth, educational background, employment history, personal foreign travel, other information about immediate family as well as business and personal acquaintances and other information used to conduct and adjudicate background investigations. (See documentation attached);

3. Current military member (US Army Officer) See DD-214;

4. Work at fort Belvoir (targeted by: ISIS and other radicalized groups);

5. DOD Secret clearance ;

6. DOJ security clearance (pending adjudication);

7. DOD credentials always on person (PIV/Access card);

8. DOJ credentials always on person (ATF PIV/Access card);

9. Recent attacks on Law-Enforcement Officers and Military members from radicalized groups;

10. lawfully protect family and self outside of my home and while traversing the state of Maryland;

11. Credit cards exceeding $20,000 USD;
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Just wanted to update everyone on my permit process thus far.

I went to my informal review where 1SG sustained the denial back in July. I immediately reacted asking for a HPRB hearing (formal hearing) which I complete this past tuesday (OCT 3). The Board saw fit that I indeed had G&S and overturned the MDSP to issue an unrestricted permit. G&S can be found below. Thanks.

1. For any lawful purpose;

2. OPM data breach, Due to the recent hacking of the Office of Personnel Management System database, which I am apart of, is currently being sold Online which contains all but not limited to the following information contained on the SF86; A. Current security clearances held, B. current address of work, C. current address of residence, D. physical description as well as immediate family members, E. military history. F. Full name, G. Social Security number, H. date and place of birth, educational background, employment history, personal foreign travel, other information about immediate family as well as business and personal acquaintances and other information used to conduct and adjudicate background investigations. (See documentation attached);

3. Current military member (US Army Officer) See DD-214;

4. Work at fort Belvoir (targeted by: ISIS and other radicalized groups);

5. DOD Secret clearance ;

6. DOJ security clearance (pending adjudication);

7. DOD credentials always on person (PIV/Access card);

8. DOJ credentials always on person (ATF PIV/Access card);

9. Recent attacks on Law-Enforcement Officers and Military members from radicalized groups;

10. lawfully protect family and self outside of my home and while traversing the state of Maryland;

11. Credit cards exceeding $20,000 USD;



I know which one you were, you had some quality representation. Congrats and welcome to the club!
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I know which one you were, you had some quality representation. Congrats and welcome to the club!
Thank you. Eric did a fine job. Did we meet at some point that night?
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Old October 11th, 2017, 11:11 PM #256
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Got mine but waited 6 months
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Old October 11th, 2017, 11:21 PM #257
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The requirements are indeed BS, because it is against Maryland law to use deadly force to protect property of any kind.

It is now a "crime of violence" in MD to break and enter. I wonder if that changes?
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Old October 19th, 2017, 11:38 PM #258
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Just wanted to update everyone on my permit process thus far.

I went to my informal review where 1SG sustained the denial back in July. I immediately reacted asking for a HPRB hearing (formal hearing) which I complete this past tuesday (OCT 3). The Board saw fit that I indeed had G&S and overturned the MDSP to issue an unrestricted permit. G&S can be found below. Thanks.

1. For any lawful purpose;

2. OPM data breach, Due to the recent hacking of the Office of Personnel Management System database, which I am apart of, is currently being sold Online which contains all but not limited to the following information contained on the SF86; A. Current security clearances held, B. current address of work, C. current address of residence, D. physical description as well as immediate family members, E. military history. F. Full name, G. Social Security number, H. date and place of birth, educational background, employment history, personal foreign travel, other information about immediate family as well as business and personal acquaintances and other information used to conduct and adjudicate background investigations. (See documentation attached);

3. Current military member (US Army Officer) See DD-214;

4. Work at fort Belvoir (targeted by: ISIS and other radicalized groups);

5. DOD Secret clearance ;

6. DOJ security clearance (pending adjudication);

7. DOD credentials always on person (PIV/Access card);

8. DOJ credentials always on person (ATF PIV/Access card);

9. Recent attacks on Law-Enforcement Officers and Military members from radicalized groups;

10. lawfully protect family and self outside of my home and while traversing the state of Maryland;

11. Credit cards exceeding $20,000 USD;

GlockxRob,

I wanted to see if I could pick your brain, I am using the same reasoning as you did. My HPRB is coming up soon, I read a post about having representation....could you tell me what that was? Did it help your process? Do you feel the representation was the main factor for getting the denial over turned?

Feel free to PM me I'd really appreciate it!
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Old October 20th, 2017, 07:09 PM #259
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Mil retired from uniform. Working almost 10 years now for DAF, same office but in civvies. Similar story. Requested first of Feb 17. First interview end of May (Charles Ewing). Didn't hear anything else. Called around 25 July. Was told it was denied and letter sent 29 June, which I did not get. They did send a duplicate. Filed for review at both LD and Board. Met with 1Sgt at LD 3rd week of Sep (original denial letter came in mail that same week). Very cordial meeting, however denial was sustained. Had same OPM breech concerns - I received the same letter, probably not articulated as well as what I read here. Secret clearance. Move aircraft all over globe for employing airpower. ISIS. Top 3 GS rate. Phone interviewed 7 of my coworkers including a Director and two different Security Officers - one a police officer now serving on active duty. Work on Andrews. I know I am a target. I have more than 35 years working for the AF in uniform and as a civilian, all in Logistics. I have watched people watching me when I drive off the base. Suffer from Degenerative Disk Disease -- 20% disabled from VA. Major surgery on it last year and now sport a back full of titanium. Will never run again and may not fair well if attacked. Family to watch over. I have been targeted by mail mentioning my family by name after a different security issue in the 90's so I know how it feels -- that was turned over to OSI. Today this is serious. Did not matter - reasons were not good enough. I am now waiting on the board. Got my date for that yesterday -- 6 Feb 2018. It will be a year at that point. I am well trained, have my own range set up and use it regularly. Can carry in nearly 30 states, but not my home state. I have never felt the need for protection as I do now with all of the atrocities going on against our responders in blue, red and green, and common citizens. Trying now to figure out what is a good and substantial reason if ability to protect one's self and family is not good enough. Stay safe and vigilant.
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