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Old August 11th, 2017, 09:27 PM #31
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Watch the earllier demos on the kevlar vests. That will likely you into convulsions.

Here's one...both of these were with responsible parties invilved knowing and understanding their product.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyn7eKfQXPg
Yikes! Obviously they have faith in their product, but I don't think I'd participate. Also...it looked like they were "shooting" outside somebody's house?

I remember old footage of a vest inventor who shot himself in the chest, then shot immediately shot a target (bowling pins, maybe?) to illustrate that an officer wearing his vest could not only survive being shot, but could effectively return fire. I just hope his mother didn't see it.
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Watch the earllier demos on the kevlar vests. That will likely put you into convulsions. Not sure I could do that.

Here's one...both of these were responsible parties involved knowing and understanding their product.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyn7eKfQXPg
Yeah, I've seen those type of "tests". Totally insane in my opinion. Like testing a roll cage with a live human being. That's what dummies and ballistic gel and the like were made for.
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The guy who wrapped a metal strap across the top of that nice stainless barrel deserves a head slap.
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Old August 11th, 2017, 11:21 PM #34
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Yikes! Obviously they have faith in their product, but I don't think I'd participate. Also...it looked like they were "shooting" outside somebody's house?

I remember old footage of a vest inventor who shot himself in the chest, then shot immediately shot a target (bowling pins, maybe?) to illustrate that an officer wearing his vest could not only survive being shot, but could effectively return fire. I just hope his mother didn't see it.
Second Chance vest, IIRC. It was a Model 29 with 44 factory magnum ammo. He put telephone books under the vest to prevent bruising and rib injury. He shot his partner wearing the rifle vest with a 7.62 x 51. Very strange watching that...or any of these videos. Using yest dummies works for me.
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That is called marketing. Doing something to get the potential customers attention. When he started doing that it was basically a new product using materials and designs that were practically unheard of at the time. He probably felt he had to do something spectacular to get the attention of historically cautious buyers, law enforcement and military. It worked.
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I temember early days of sandbag testing for accuracy magnum revolvers. Cut the bags open. I have shot thumbs forward with revolvers. I kept my support hand thumb back some, not difficult since my hands are not big. I did try it with magnum loads. Doesn't work...hands separate easily from the hard recoil impulse
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Richatd C. Davis , founder of Second Chance.

His initial demonstration was filmed ( yes, before the days of video) , and was widely seen . In it he used .38Spl +P , as he did in most of his live demonstrations.

For today's trivia - In preparation for his first demonstration , he wanted a prop to be able to shoot after taking the vest hit. He decided to use a Bowling Pin . He was impressed enough with the behavior of bowling pins after shooting them in his demonstrations , that he then invented the sport of Bowling Pin Shooting.
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Nice tidbit, thanks
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