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Old May 19th, 2017, 06:23 PM #111
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It would be nice if this level of judgement was subject to due process safeguards. The ability to challenge such judgements, and reverse them when and if the operant factors are mitigated, would seem to be essential in preserving individual rights and freedoms.
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That's not what a lot of the other posters are talking about.
Yes, which is why I keep disassociating myself from them.
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Old May 20th, 2017, 12:26 AM #113
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The good thing about these posts is that it offers an open dialogue for this aspect of society. It is helpful because we can either sharpen ourselves with other ideas or think about new ones that would benefit the society as a whole.
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The good thing about these posts is that it offers an open dialogue for this aspect of society. It is helpful because we can either sharpen ourselves with other ideas or think about new ones that would benefit the society as a whole.
Sometimes the Rights of an individual trump what benefits society as a whole. Once you start going down the "it benefits society as a whole" slope, it gets very slippery indeed.
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Let's try this again....
We (i.e., I) are talking about people who've been diagnosed as "dangerous to self or others" by a trained psychiatrist. We (i.e., I) are NOT talking about the general class of depressives, PTSDs, OCDs, female hysterics and their genetically male counterparts, et al.

Do psychiatrists make mistakes? Of course. But if we're gonna er, I'd much rather er on the side of sanity...
So an anti-2A psychiatrist finds out you have firearms in your house, with children, and "diagnoses" you as dangerous to others.

And you get locked up.

What do you do? What you are proposing has NO LEGAL PROTECTIONS.

OK. I am fine with that, enjoy your time locked up. Are YOU?
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Sometimes the Rights of an individual trump what benefits society as a whole. Once you start going down the "it benefits society as a whole" slope, it gets very slippery indeed.
Often times, increased individual liberty is the best means for benefiting society. For example, we're all familiar with the benefit of removing 2a infringements as a means of combating violence rather than placing more infringements
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Maryland wanted to look at restricting the 2A Rights of the mentally ill. For those in favor, you have that in common with Del. Rosenberg.

http://dlslibrary.state.md.us/public...Ch131_2012.pdf
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So an anti-2A psychiatrist finds out you have firearms in your house, with children, and "diagnoses" you as dangerous to others.
And you get locked up.
What do you do? What you are proposing has NO LEGAL PROTECTIONS.
OK. I am fine with that, enjoy your time locked up. Are YOU?
Can you cite any cases in Maryland where a non-mentally-ill taxpayer's been diagnosed by a psychiatrist as "dangerous to self or others" and incarcerated on the basis of that diagnosis?
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