Hakuna Matata
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- May 14, 2014
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I'm going to try to get over to Indiana Ave to apply tmrw, I'll let you guys know how it goes.
New DC CCW application(fillable)
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If you have taken the 16 hour training from a MD approved trainer within two years they will accept that regardless if that trainer is DC approved. They did for mine.
W2D
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I took the 16 hr class at MSAR. Mo Mosrie was asked several times and he reiterated that another permit is NOT required for a non resident looking for a DC permit. Just to beat this horse again, are they saying at 300 (since the ruling) that a permit IS required?
I’m making sure someone actually put this requirement to the test since the ruling.
Thanks
No disrespect to your trainer, but it wouldn't be the first time one didn't know the law. The Worth A Poop thread comes to mind, but I digress...
Take it from someone who has been through the process, you need a permit from somewhere.
And BTW, have you popped into the rally thread to let us know you're coming Sunday?
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=4982980#post4982980
W2D
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Didn’t know. I’ll go look.
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There isn't a test. It's in the regs.
Sad a trainer doesn't know this. Remind me to stay away from MSAR for training.
The Wrenn ruling changed nothing except the G&S requirement being struck down. This requirement has always been in the regs since DC was forced to start issuing permits.
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Sad a trainer doesn't know this. Remind me to stay away from MSAR for training.
The Wrenn ruling changed nothing except the G&S requirement being struck down. This requirement has always been in the regs since DC was forced to start issuing permits.
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Biggfoot44
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- Aug 2, 2009
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I can't swear MSAR doesn't other people who might have a random instructor certificate , but Mo is a great trainer who is on the short list I recomend . He has a security and training company of his own, in addition to the classes he gives thru MSAR .
Usually well Informed, I can only guess his former colleagues at MPD training branch have only yet recieved fragmentary information from MPD licensing division .
Usually well Informed, I can only guess his former colleagues at MPD training branch have only yet recieved fragmentary information from MPD licensing division .
The requirement has been in the DCMR since at least 2015.
The regs are available for anyone to read. You don't need the Training Division at MPD to read them.
Just making the point.
I'm not an instructor and I was aware of all this.
The regs are available for anyone to read. You don't need the Training Division at MPD to read them.
Just making the point.
I'm not an instructor and I was aware of all this.
W2D
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I respect your experience without reservation, but however the MPD enforces the rules, I still read the section 2332 f) 1, 2, or 3:
1) is that residents are eligible
2) is that US residents with a permit are eligible
3) is that US residents with the proper licensing (training, registration, law training etc) are eligible.
Sadly, not able to exercise my constitutional rights because IANAL.
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1) is that residents are eligible
2) is that US residents with a permit are eligible
3) is that US residents with the proper licensing (training, registration, law training etc) are eligible.
Sadly, not able to exercise my constitutional rights because IANAL.
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W2D
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It also says if you answer yes, attach a copy. It doesn’t say you are ineligible.
Not arguing the issue, just ranting.
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It also says if you answer yes, attach a copy. It doesn’t say you are ineligible.
Not arguing the issue, just ranting.
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You answer yes, and attach a copy of your (any) state permit to the application. Easy peasy.
Don't sweat it, you'll be fine. You know I won't steer you wrong.
W2D
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NH app in the envelope.
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Seller info is also done:
a) with a long gun if you decide not to use sykes.*
b) if you are doing an in family transfer, which DC MPD will also do without going through Sykes. I know, I have done it.
*There are circumstances where you may use sykes with a long gun, say if it is >$75 cheaper online or, depending what your time is worth, since you do need to go twice to a local bricks and mortar if you don't use sykes, once to fill out the DC forms with the selling store, and once to pick up
FYI As I have non res permits in other states I asked twice about this directly concerning non resident permits in other states and was told: for DC residents who have non resident permits in other states, that this should be checked "no."
Understood but most of the people who are reading this thread don't live in DC.
A MD resident asked if a non resident permit from another state is required by DC.
The answer is yes.
A MD resident asked if a non resident permit from another state is required by DC.
The answer is yes.
You must remember to remind people you live in DC.
Different rules for residents and nonresidents.
CypherPunk
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- Apr 6, 2012
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Does anyone have information on why D.C. may have decided to require a permit from any other jurisdiction?
Just to be difficult?
Because they don't trust their own ability to do background checks?
Just to be difficult?
Because they don't trust their own ability to do background checks?
Perhaps they think it would limit their liability in the event of s lawsuit? They can blame another state? Just guessing
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