Carry Permit?

jimbobborg · Oct 28, 2010

mikec said:
Jim, decaf please. Thanks.

I believe even Texas makes you qualify for your permit. I do not remember if you must qualify with each gun or just show range competency.

Great idea, but in truth not often done.

As I said, a system like MI's would be great, compared to MD's current ways.

Let's get the current rules changed.

Virginia requires handgun safety competency, not separate qualifications per pistol. I really keep hoping that Maryland gets this worked out so I don't have to disarm every time I cross the border to get to Pennsylvania. :party29:

Good luck, we're pulling for you!

Jim

WeaponsCollector · Oct 28, 2010

The second amendment is my "carry permit" at times simply because it's better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6!
$120 fee for a "permit" to exercise our basic constitutional right? That's an INFRINGEMENT if there ever was one!

faze · Oct 28, 2010

mikec said:
Jim, decaf please. Thanks.

I believe even Texas makes you qualify for your permit. I do not remember if you must qualify with each gun or just show range competency.

Great idea, but in truth not often done.

As I said, a system like MI's would be great, compared to MD's current ways.

Let's get the current rules changed.

Changed how? We're arguing with idiots, these morons don't listen to the facts. They don't like guns, so they don't want people carrying them, even if it means that people are protecting themselves. I emailed the MD state representative (John Sarbanes) about the magazine capacity restrictions and got this:

Thank you for contacting me to express your views about gun control legislation. I appreciate hearing from you about this important matter and I welcome the opportunity to respond.

Sadly, gun violence is far too common in American society. I believe it is important to put in place measures that prevent criminals from accessing dangerous weapons. As such, I support vigorous enforcement of background checks and other common sense measures that prevent gun violence. However, I appreciate your point of view and will be sure to keep your comments in mind as we strive for a balance between legal gun ownership and preventing criminal activity.

Again, thank you for sharing your views with me on this issue. If I can be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact my office.

Sincerely,

John Sarbanes

Member of Congress

What kind of b/s is that? Didn't even answer me. I said this back:

Thanks a lot for your reply. Limiting the amount of rounds a magazine can hold will not keep criminals from committing violent crime. If one were go to on a shooting spree, they would simply bring along more magazines, magazines are cheap, and easily purchased from any gun store with cash, and no questions asked. MD is one of the only states with this ridiculous law. I can drive to PA and purchase a 30 round magazine, or a 75 round drum for an AK47, or AR15, and etc... and have no issue, as this is not illegal, nor is owning the weapon as per the second amendment. Limiting magazine capacity will NOT keep "dangerous weapons" out of the hands of criminals, as they have other means of obtaining weapons which I am sure you are aware of. Magazine capacity does not lower crime. Baltimore is number two in the COUNTRY for violent crime, barely behind Detroit. This law is unfair, and useless.

I'm a democrat, but most of these democrats today are freaking morons.

Hyper-W · Oct 28, 2010

faze said:
I'm a democrat, but most of these democrats today are freaking morons.

Uh oh.

Just kidding. My advice to you is to voice your opinion, vote carefully, and be patient while SAF and Mr. Wollard (with support of MSI) fight this battle in court.

Read up on the lawsuit (and Palmer v. DC) to familiarize yourself with the arguments and just wait. Many of us are frustrated with not being able to carry.

mikec · Oct 28, 2010

Hyper-W said:
Uh oh.

Just kidding. My advice to you is to voice your opinion, vote carefully, and be patient while SAF and Mr. Wollard (with support of MSI) fight this battle in court.

Read up on the lawsuit (and Palmer v. DC) to familiarize yourself with the arguments and just wait. Many of us are frustrated with not being able to carry.

Don't forget to support MSI and SAF with some $$. MSI is only $10/yr.

Boondock Saint · Oct 28, 2010

mikec said:
Don't forget to support MSI and SAF with some $$. MSI is only $10/yr.

Maybe even get a polo... :innocent0

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=43833

ProShooter · Oct 28, 2010

Boondock Saint said:
Maybe even get a polo...

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=43833

Marco?

faze · Oct 29, 2010

mikec said:
Don't forget to support MSI and SAF with some $$. MSI is only $10/yr.

What does $10 a year go to? I don't want to be supporting one of these groups that doesn't do anything.

eruby · Oct 29, 2010

faze said:
What does $10 a year go to? I don't want to be supporting one of these groups that doesn't do anything.

While this forum is not affiliated with MSI, I would guess a large percentage of members here are members of MSI. From legislative action, to rallys to voting insight, no group does more for Maryland gun rights than MSI (Maryland Shall Issue).

Please join today.

faze · Oct 29, 2010

eruby said:
While this forum is not affiliated with MSI, I would guess a large percentage of members here are members of MSI. From legislative action, to rally's to voting insight, no group does more for Maryland gun rights than MSI (Maryland Shall Issue).

Please join today.

I'll check them out. Thanks.

faze · Oct 29, 2010

What do I get in return for supporting MSI? Are they like NRA where I get member benefits?

hvymax · Oct 29, 2010

faze said:
What does $10 a year go to? I don't want to be supporting one of these groups that doesn't do anything.

Well MSI did contribute $10,000 to and work with the SAF in bringing the lawsuit against MD's may issue system.MSI prints and distributes informational materials to inform Marylanders that 40+ states recognize their residents rights so why are we less worthy of these same fundamental rights? MSI organizes Open Holster Rallies, Booths at Fairs,Lobbying efforts and Peace and Goodwill among Men all for $10 a stinking year.

faze · Oct 29, 2010

Didn't know they had that much leverage on the system. Nice to hear they're getting out there and actually doing something.

eruby · Oct 29, 2010

faze said:
What do I get in return for supporting MSI?

In time, the right to carry a gun in Maryland. :thumbsup:

faze · Oct 29, 2010

eruby said:
In time, the right to carry a gun in Maryland.

Hopefully sooner rather than later. My parinoid ass doesn't feel safe.

Dead Eye · Oct 29, 2010

I have applied, been rejected, and am now waiting for my appeal trial.

Nearly 70% of all MD CCW permits are issued to the LEO/Security/political community. Judges, retired police officers, elected officials, security/prison guards, etc...

Nearly 30% of all MD CCW permits are issued to business owners, doctors who prescribe drugs, or others that handle or carry money or "valuables" of significant worth.

Less than 2% of all MD CCW permits are issued for "personal protection" reasons.

Most CCW permits are issued with restrictions, placed on the carrier to be used only for instance, while they are performing their duty or carrying valuables.

Personal Protection applications are scrutinized HEAVILY for CURRENT acts of RECORDED or VERIFIABLE acts of threats of death, targeted SPECIFICALLY AT YOU. Living in a bad neighborhood, for example, is not a valid reason because ALL of your neighbors are at risk, not just you (follow that logic). If your perp goes back to jail, your permit goes with him, because MDSP feels as though your threat is now behind bars.

So, unless you are in the first group, I'd suggest the second. Make sure that you can get records of deposits or of the value of the items you are carrying. In any case, unless some perp threatened to kill you on national television, outside the local police barracks, forget the third option.

faze · Oct 29, 2010

Yeah I don't fit into any of those categories, I just want to feel safe, because I don't.

Still b/s the way they're giving out these permits. Total b/s.

Boondock Saint · Oct 29, 2010

Go to the Maryland 2A Issues sub forum and look for anything that says Maryland Shall Issue. We put out periodic updates that sum up our (read: our members) involvement in all things relating to the fight. Most pertinent at the moment would be the candidate recommendations. Along with a few other Maryland 2A groups, MSI surveyed all candidates for office in Maryland regarding a number of 2A issues and endorsed candidates in specific districts/offices.

Teemus · Oct 29, 2010

4MarDiv said:
I have my own business and can't get a permit. Cuz I haven't been robbed, mugged, beaten, stabbed, become a statistic .. and the $ is non refundable. Doesn't matter about carrying $ or what neighborhoods you work in... go figure. I do work in VA, WVA and DE alot so I have applied to VA for a non resident CCW. Funny, I don't pay taxes there and they'll give me one! lol!

Man, I don't know what you have been reading, but if you are a legitimate business (i.e. Incorporated, LLP, LLC, etc., have the state paperwork to prove it, have an actual BUSINESS back account, can show 12 random deposit slips in the last 12 months and 12 BUSINESS purchases related to your business in the last 12 months, have minutes of your BUSINESS meetings appointing you to a position where your duties are listed as making BUSINESS deposits and withdrawals) then YOU'RE IN. They don't even look to see if the deposits are made by cash or check. They don't ask how much money you carry or deposit, etc. like they used to do.

I know of at least 5 other small business people like myself who have gotten these permits in Maryland recently. Several of them are right here on this board.

mrjam2jab · Oct 29, 2010

mikec said:
I would like a system like Michigan has, based on what i have read. If you do not want to carry, there was little change to their previous buying process. If you apply for a carry permit, you take and must pass a state course. Then the forms and personal info is sent to the state police and a background check is done. Pass that and you are issued a permit. You then qualify with each gun you want listed on the permit. Renew every five years.

By chance are you referring to NV? You have to qualify with each semi-auto tou want to carry but any revolver if you desire. I don't see any such requirement in MI.

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