Man charged even though he had CCW in MD

k9guy · Aug 28, 2018

Just saw this article, don’t know all the fine details but it surprises me that he was charged in Hagerstown considering the details of the story.

https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/new...cle_0f2d5004-aa3a-11e8-87af-57a57c6d1bf0.html

motorcoachdoug · Aug 28, 2018

I wonder if their is more to this story then appears in the press.

md_06unltd · Aug 28, 2018

k9guy said:
Just saw this article, don’t know all the fine details but it surprises me that he was charged in Hagerstown considering the details of the story.

Makes no difference to me, time to file an appeal to my restriction. It's not up to a PO to determine whether I am working or not.

Inigoes · Aug 28, 2018

Carrying outside of the permit restrictions is now a criminal offense.

Walking his dog, was not part of his bail bond business.

swinokur · Aug 28, 2018

Except that is a bail bondsman really ever off duty? Aren't bonded out and released perps everywhere?

Finally Esq's fears have now been realized.

This restriction thing needs to be addressed by the courts once and for all.

If he's found guilty he'll be prohibited for life

K31 · Aug 28, 2018

Already discussed here:

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=227103

POP57 · Aug 28, 2018

And here...
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=227104

Squaregrouper · Aug 28, 2018

K31 said:
Already discussed here:

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=227103

Water Cooler- Many can't see it.

jc1240 · Aug 28, 2018

swinokur said:
Except that is a bail bondsman really ever off duty? Aren't bonded out and released perps everywhere?

Finally Esq's fears have now been realized.

This restriction thing needs to be addressed by the courts once and for all.

If he's found guilty he'll be prohibited for life

That's the case for anyone. I don't think I've heard of any dirtbag look at his watch and say to his buddy, "No we have to wait. He's not on the clock yet."

swinokur · Aug 28, 2018

Exactly why restrictions are BS

PJS · Aug 29, 2018

Given where this happened, I'm going to bet there is more to the story.

rbird7282 · Aug 29, 2018

There is already a few other threads discussing this

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pbharvey · Aug 29, 2018

Inigoes said:
Carrying outside of the permit restrictions is now a criminal offense.

Walking his dog, was not part of his bail bond business.

I was under the impression that the dog was one of his tools he uses to apprehend people. Is a truck driver on duty if he’s washing his truck?

swinokur · Aug 29, 2018

Or pushing the hand truck he uses to unload cargo?

Not driving the truck but clearly working.

Inigoes · Aug 29, 2018

pbharvey said:
I was under the impression that the dog was one of his tools he uses to apprehend people. Is a truck driver on duty if he’s washing his truck?

That is the million dollar question. Was he working, or was he just walking fido?

If he was working, he may have been within his permit restrictions.
If he was just walking fido, not so much...

Applehd · Aug 29, 2018

As stated before... Sgt. Bonell has mentioned numerous times at HPRB meetings... if you are on-call... you are working... BB was walking his tool... carrying his tool for self-protection... carrying his tool for apprehension... carrying his tool to notify PD... that sounds like working to me... but... I'm just a Joe... what do I know? :shrug:

Rab1515 · Aug 29, 2018

Inigoes said:
That is the million dollar question. Was he working, or was he just walking fido?

If he was working, he may have been within his permit restrictions.
If he was just walking fido, not so much...

If his dog assisted him in his dutys, them he was taking care of the dog and therefore on duty.

Not_an_outlaw · Aug 29, 2018

Applehd said:
As stated before... Sgt. Bonell has mentioned numerous times at HPRB meetings... if you are on-call... you are working... BB was walking his tool... carrying his tool for self-protection... carrying his tool for apprehension... carrying his tool to notify PD... that sounds like working to me... but... I'm just a Joe... what do I know?

Hostile witness Bonell now being called to the stand.

GTOGUNNER · Aug 29, 2018

Not_an_outlaw said:
Hostile witness Bonell now being called to the stand.

First Sargent Moriarty, your the next witness. Please give your weapon to the bailiff.

bobwilley · Aug 29, 2018

The problem I see, is that Williams said he confronted the man looking at vehicles and with a knife
I was taught to never be the aggressor and only act when YOU are at threat

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