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Old February 22nd, 2018, 10:38 AM #11
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Holy cow. Glock responded to my build date question within 12hours ( submitted last night, response this am). The gun was built in 3/11 so it is 7 years old. It was clearly sold as new...the store would have to have had to say the gun was refurbished, meaning used. I raised the concern with glock asking for clarrification. They immediatly wrote back and said regardless of refurb or old new its the same warranty. Were good til that poitnand i politely pointed out you can not sell used goods as new under consumer protection statutes and i asked them to verify the status of this gun. Any problem if ONS is a warranty issue, i agree. If a refurb without disclsoure, we are in another universe. Let’s get the facts.
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Old February 22nd, 2018, 11:20 AM #12
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If it's refurbished, check the label on the box. Glock also apparently stamps a number inside the dust cover (7 or 8?).

Besides the serial number, what makes you think it's used? Any wear marks?
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Old February 22nd, 2018, 12:19 PM #13
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[QUOTE=jaredm1;5115252]If it's refurbished, check the label on the box. Glock also apparently stamps a number inside the dust cover (7 or 8?).

Besides the serial number, what makes you think it's used? Any wear marks?[/QUOTE
There have been 3 communications this morning. Very prompt. Very responsive. In the last i was told it was not reburbished and was sold new in 2011to a distributor...they do not sell to ffls. I had no reason to believe it was refurbished. I had read some ofnthe older models had problems, around this serial no, and when i learned it was made 7 years ago, my mind wandered. Still, a 7 year old, NOS glock seems not usual, but maybe a 33 is not popular. Nothing on the box, nothing on the gun. No unusual wear, but no glock brown/gold grease as i have seen on other new glocks. Neither wife nor i can get to this gun for a bit, but i do have 12 boxes of 357 on their way from someplace and we will wring it out in due course. I have this 22 year old 27, and its so nice and broken in....
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So it's new old stock? Some suppliers are sitting on new old stock. If the gun was rebuilt by Glock, your problem is with the dealer not Glock. That being said, if a dealer doesn't rotate the stock you get what's on top.

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Old February 22nd, 2018, 01:31 PM #15
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So it's new old stock? Some suppliers are sitting on new old stock. If the gun was rebuilt by Glock, your problem is with the dealer not Glock. That being said, if a dealer doesn't rotate the stock you get what's on top.

Go here an sign up or read:
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Repeating, glock writes its not a rebuild. However, if it was a rebuild from a return or a demo, glock has an obligation tomso mark it so it does not get passed on to unsuspecting buyers from a distributor. Why should the dealer be required to figure it out?
This was a blue label program gun. I went back to look on the sellerís web site and there is no notice that blue label guns could be reubuilt.
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Old February 22nd, 2018, 09:52 PM #16
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If it's refurbished, check the label on the box. Glock also apparently stamps a number inside the dust cover (7 or 8?).

Besides the serial number, what makes you think it's used? Any wear marks?[/QUOTE
There have been 3 communications this morning. Very prompt. Very responsive. In the last i was told it was not reburbished and was sold new in 2011to a distributor...they do not sell to ffls. I had no reason to believe it was refurbished. I had read some ofnthe older models had problems, around this serial no, and when i learned it was made 7 years ago, my mind wandered. Still, a 7 year old, NOS glock seems not usual, but maybe a 33 is not popular. Nothing on the box, nothing on the gun. No unusual wear, but no glock brown/gold grease as i have seen on other new glocks. Neither wife nor i can get to this gun for a bit, but i do have 12 boxes of 357 on their way from someplace and we will wring it out in due course. I have this 22 year old 27, and its so nice and broken in....
My latest Glock20SF purchased in Nov. 2017 had what looked like copper antisieze inside but my Glock22 purchased in 2003 didn't. Hope that makes you feel better about you're purchase. In any case if there is no visible wear on any internal components I don't see a problem. As you said 357sig isn't the most popular chambering. Not that it's bad. I have an extra 357sig barrel for my G22 as I'm sure lots of others do too. Hope you enjoy it.
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Repeating, glock writes its not a rebuild. However, if it was a rebuild from a return or a demo, glock has an obligation tomso mark it so it does not get passed on to unsuspecting buyers from a distributor. Why should the dealer be required to figure it out?
This was a blue label program gun. I went back to look on the sellerís web site and there is no notice that blue label guns could be reubuilt.
I wrote "if". Glock marks the box if a rebuild. As now you wrote it's a "Blue Label" that explains why it's 7 yo. Glock runs a number X of Blue Labels an doesn't pull them to sell to the public. If you go to the forums I posted you'll read that from Glock employees an other things.

An a rebuild sold as new would still fall on the FFL. They are the one having you fill out the 4473 an putting the firearm in their bond book as new or used.
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Old February 23rd, 2018, 02:56 PM #18
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I looked at the inks you posted snd would appreciatenit if you could help me find the reference to this subject. I loked. I think you will agree that if glock sells a refurbished gun as new, the onus is on glock, not the distributor or dealer. Likewise, if glock marks it as refurbed, and so sells it, the distributor wnd desler who are aware need to tell the buyer. Sell it for what it is. I wm still back to,the wuestiin, after hearing frommglockmthis did not leave thenfactory refurbished, is it normal or has anyone hewrd of a glock going unsold for 7 years from thr build date.
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Factory reconditioned Glocks get a yellow label on the box. They also have that tag on the trigger guard.
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Old February 23rd, 2018, 05:30 PM #20
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Over the years my wife has bought 3 blue labels from the same ffl. I dont remember any blue labels on any of them. Someone mentioned that the blue labels have a blue label wrapping the grip, the way a sig cpo has a red handle wrapper. ?
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