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INMY01TA · Oct 3, 2015

So I was visiting my cousin and family in New Jersey. His father recently had a stroke so he told my cousin to get his guns from his house and sell them for him. We took some pics, we have no idea what they're worth. Several Garands and a couple flintlock/muzzle loaders. One flintlock in real nice shape and one with rust. There are two other rifles we didn't have time to take pics of.

reverendbeer · Oct 3, 2015

Cool...instant Springfield collection!

Machodoc · Oct 3, 2015

I love them all!

Cruacious · Oct 3, 2015

Well if you can get the Garand's gauged, I'll make an offer on them if they are good. Value depends heavily on condition and make.

Lowest I've seen was a "Field" grade going for 850 today, and highest was another Field Grade in slightly better shape for 950. Pricing can go into the thousands if it's a rare make and good condition. I'm no expert on Flintlocks mind you, but I'd sure others can help you there.

j8064 · Oct 3, 2015

Machodoc said:
I love them all!

Me too - And I want 'em all. But we can't always get what we want.... :sad20:

Nice toys there!

:thumbsup:

Drmsparks · Oct 3, 2015

1903 springfield, refurbed, low number. (considered by most unsafe to shoot)
1903 springfield high number

6 mill garand (niche, not a lot of them, if correct (all drawing numbers correct) if correct worth a bit (correct garands are about $1500 now.)

Winchester 1917. Excellent finish....These are moving up quickly in value over the last couple of years,

1 or 2? Trap door? springfields. I'm interested in the rusty one if the bore is good.

iH8DemLibz · Oct 3, 2015

The Trapdoors are rusted beyond repair.

But I'd take one off your hands as a wall hanger.

How's 50 bucks sound.

DC-W · Oct 3, 2015

iH8DemLibz said:
The Trapdoors are rusted beyond repair. But I'd take one off your hands as a wall hanger. How's 50 bucks sound.

Lol

INMY01TA · Oct 3, 2015

If someone here wanted to buy them how would that be handled? I'm unfamiliar with C&R/New Jersey (other than they suck) laws.

iH8DemLibz · Oct 3, 2015

Bring them here and sell them.

I'd seriously like a Trapdoor.

Antique! So no paperwork at all.

As for the others, all FTF cuzz they be long guns.

Brickman301 · Oct 3, 2015

That's a nice collection. I'm guessing here but what do you are calling muzzleloaders are not. They are trapdoor rifles, i'm trying to read the date on the lock on the rusty one, it looks like 1853 or 58 if that's correct, it's a conversion rifle made from a muzzleloading rifle. A lot of civil war muskets were converted to this configuration. They also came and a number of different cartridges/calibers. Need more pics, to be sure.

CasualObserver · Oct 3, 2015

INMY01TA said:
If someone here wanted to buy them how would that be handled? I'm unfamiliar with C&R/New Jersey (other than they suck) laws.

Then antique ones can come to Maryland no problem. The other long arms can't be transferred from one state resident (in this case a NJ resident) to another (in this case a MD resident) without involving a FFL (per federal law)... in this case a C&R FFL here in MD is fine to receive them.

I'll be honest, I almost hate responding to this as whenever we get into discussions of the law in these posts, there inevitably seems to be disagreements.

An except below if you want the ATF clarification...

https://www.atf.gov/file/61721/download

2. May I lawfully transfer a firearm to a friend who resides in a different State?

Under Federal law, an unlicensed individual is prohibited from transferring a firearm to an individual who does not reside in the State where the transferee resides. Generally, for a person to lawfully transfer a firearm to an unlicensed person who resides out of State, the firearm must be shipped to a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) within the recipient’s State of residence. He or she may then receive the firearm from the FFL upon completion of an ATF Form 4473 and a NICS background check. More information can be obtained on the ATF website at www.atf.gov and http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html. The GCA provides an exception from this prohibition for temporary loans or rentals of firearms for lawful sporting purposes. Thus, for example, a friend visiting you may borrow a firearm from you to go hunting. Another exception is provided for transfers of firearms to nonresidents to carry out a lawful bequest or acquisition by intestate succession. This exception would authorize the transfer of a firearm to a nonresident who inherits a firearm under the will of a decedent. See 18 U.S.C. 922(a)(5).

INMY01TA · Oct 3, 2015

One of em is stamped 1868.

Cruacious · Oct 3, 2015

CasualObserver said:
Then antique ones can come to Maryland no problem. The other long arms can't be transferred from one state resident (in this case a NJ resident) to another (in this case a MD resident) without involving an FFL (per federal law)... in this case a C&R FFL here in MD is fine to receive them.

I'll be honest, I almost hate responding to this as whenever we get into discussions of the law in these posts, there inevitably seems to be disagreements.

Well you're correct entirely, so don't worry about arguments.

CasualObserver · Oct 3, 2015

Pretty cool... definitely have some there that are on my wish list.

iH8DemLibz · Oct 3, 2015

INMY01TA said:
One of em is stamped 1868.

Trapdoor?

The nicely blued one or the beautifully rusted one?

Never mind. The blued one is an 1881/1884 (blurred pic) Model. Stamped on the door by the hinge.

INMY01TA · Oct 3, 2015

Thanks for the info guys.

Brickman301 · Oct 3, 2015

INMY01TA said:
One of em is stamped 1868.

Ok, that is a conversion rifle. It is and 5070 government

Brickman301 · Oct 3, 2015

iH8DemLibz said:
Trapdoor?

The nicely blued one or the beautifully rusted one?

Never mind. The blued one is an 1881/1884 (blurred pic) Model. Stamped on the door by the hinge.

Good eyes. Yes that what I see as well. If it model 1884, is what they call a low hump. The cut on the under side of the trapdoor is not cut as deep, it's supposed to be a little stronger. The cut on the 1873 model, is a lot deeper.

Lou45 · Oct 6, 2015

CasualObserver said:
Then antique ones can come to Maryland no problem. The other long arms can't be transferred from one state resident (in this case a NJ resident) to another (in this case a MD resident) without involving a FFL (per federal law)... in this case a C&R FFL here in MD is fine to receive them.

I'll be honest, I almost hate responding to this as whenever we get into discussions of the law in these posts, there inevitably seems to be disagreements.

An except below if you want the ATF clarification...

https://www.atf.gov/file/61721/download

2. May I lawfully transfer a firearm to a friend who resides in a different State?

Under Federal law, an unlicensed individual is prohibited from transferring a firearm to an individual who does not reside in the State where the transferee resides. Generally, for a person to lawfully transfer a firearm to an unlicensed person who resides out of State, the firearm must be shipped to a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) within the recipient’s State of residence. He or she may then receive the firearm from the FFL upon completion of an ATF Form 4473 and a NICS background check. More information can be obtained on the ATF website at www.atf.gov and http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html. The GCA provides an exception from this prohibition for temporary loans or rentals of firearms for lawful sporting purposes. Thus, for example, a friend visiting you may borrow a firearm from you to go hunting. Another exception is provided for transfers of firearms to nonresidents to carry out a lawful bequest or acquisition by intestate succession. This exception would authorize the transfer of a firearm to a nonresident who inherits a firearm under the will of a decedent. See 18 U.S.C. 922(a)(5).

INMY01TA said:
Thanks for the info guys.

INMY01TA, follow CasualObserver's post and you'll be ok, otherwise you could wind up on the wrong side of the legal fence.

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