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Can Trump make CCW in all 50 states?
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Said no one in his right mind EVER.
thomfantomas
Crna Ovca
strongly disagree with you!
Troll.
Trolling.
Ignore.
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Kharn
Ultimate Member
Check out HR 923, Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015
Paraphrased:
1) A state-issued CCW permit allows you to carry concealed in any state, besides your state of residence, a non-MG/DD that has been transported in interstate commerce.
2) An individual with a state-issued identification card (aka, driver's license) from a constitutional carry state may carry a concealed firearm (non-DD/MG, from interstate commerce) in the other 49 states.
3) You must obey local laws while carrying
4) Permits recognized under this statute are to be treated as an unrestricted license by the local authorities.
This doesn't solve our problems of how to carry in MD, but it lets the 49 other states' residents carry in MD, and if you get a non-MD permit, you can carry in the 49 states. Even NYC can't stop you, as you must be treated as an unrestricted permit.
119 cosponsors.
HR 986, Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015 is slightly different, as it does not include the constitutional carry language, but it includes
1) You may not be arrested if you are abiding the law, and any permit presented is presumed to be valid (no BS about taking you to the station to check the permit)
2) the prosecutor must prove that you violated this law, attorneys fees are to be awarded if this law is used in affirmative defense at trial
3) you are able to sue any person, state or political subdivision for deprivation of rights, receiving damages and attorney's fees (if you get the ride to the station, you're getting $$$ from the officer or his department)
216 cosponsors in the House.
Neither bill meddles in issuing policy, qualifications, etc, it's all left to the states.
exactly. reciprocity by itself doesn't help us. making the GA sit up and take notice when out of staters start might help.
thomfantomas
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oh it will and g&s will be redundant in this state!
BUFF7MM
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That what I think it's going to take, at least we will have another reason to give them hell when the out of staters start carrying here and we still can't. Might be a quick fix, I know it will make Frosh shit little fuzzy bunnies.
Kharn
Ultimate Member
While slower, I think a Supreme Court decision in Peruta would be better for the long-term than a federal law. If Congress mandated shall-issue, it could be reversed by a change in administrations in 4-8 years. SC decisions take multiple decades to reverse, if ever.
bkuether
Judge not this race .....
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clandestine
AR-15 Savant
We need a Wall
I agree. What would have if left to the federal government is that it would change every 8 years. Heard years ago that the NRA wasn't for it either
I'll believe it when it happens.
Republican presidents tend to suck on gun issues.
As much as everyone bitches about Clinton, the God-forsaken AWB has expired (and GW Bush wanted to extend it but congress shot down the idea).
Reagan signed the '86 act. Now a $20 DIAS costs about $25,000 because of his signature.
And don't whine about the Hughes Amendement in the House. The damn bill passed the Republican-controlled Senate and was signed into law by a Republican president who had no problem banning new machine guns. You already know the infamous Reagan Quote: "There's no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons." He later supported the Brady Bill, loudly.
GWH Bush ordered a ban on semi-auto imports.
Nixon said on the record that if he had his way he'd ban handguns and would even license hunting rifles.
So we are supposed to believe Trump will be different?
Like I said, I'll believe it when it happens.
And if I'm wrong I'll be happy as a pig in $hit to admit it.
How I'd LOVE a repeal of the MG ban, and man do I want a CCW without having to move to the other side of the Potomac River.
I'm not trying to troll fellas, and I usually stay away from controversial subjects like politics, religion, and the abomination that goes by the name of the Designated Hitter (what's up with that, American League?).
But I am saying, if history is any guide, don't get your hopes up.
Put pressure on him, sure, but don't get your hopes up.
Oh, and Happy Birthday to my Brother Marines!
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Republican presidents tend to suck on gun issues.
As much as everyone bitches about Clinton, the God-forsaken AWB has expired (and GW Bush wanted to extend it but congress shot down the idea).
Reagan signed the '86 act. Now a $20 DIAS costs about $25,000 because of his signature.
And don't whine about the Hughes Amendement in the House. The damn bill passed the Republican-controlled Senate and was signed into law by a Republican president who had no problem banning new machine guns. You already know the infamous Reagan Quote: "There's no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons." He later supported the Brady Bill, loudly.
GWH Bush ordered a ban on semi-auto imports.
Nixon said on the record that if he had his way he'd ban handguns and would even license hunting rifles.
So we are supposed to believe Trump will be different?
Like I said, I'll believe it when it happens.
And if I'm wrong I'll be happy as a pig in $hit to admit it.
How I'd LOVE a repeal of the MG ban, and man do I want a CCW without having to move to the other side of the Potomac River.
I'm not trying to troll fellas, and I usually stay away from controversial subjects like politics, religion, and the abomination that goes by the name of the Designated Hitter (what's up with that, American League?).
But I am saying, if history is any guide, don't get your hopes up.
Put pressure on him, sure, but don't get your hopes up.
Oh, and Happy Birthday to my Brother Marines!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
tall.guy88
Ultimate Member
The experts say the timing is right using the 14th amendment argument as was done in the redefinition of "marriage" case.
RoadDawg
Nos nostraque Deo
- Dec 6, 2010
- 94,394
Do you want every person in the USA to forego their 2A rights?
Sorry but your post shows that you need to educate yourself on the requirements imposed on the LEO via LEOSA.
Yearly qualification (full "day and night LEO range course") is but ONE of the requirements of the national carry.
Please know more about something before asking for it.
RoadDawg
Nos nostraque Deo
- Dec 6, 2010
- 94,394
Going by your logic... Bill Clinton was innocent of any wrongful act with Monica Lewenski. No Democrat POTUS before him was ever known to stick cigars in his interns vagina and get a bj in the Oval Office. So he couldn't possibly have done so either.
Three facts are against your skepticism.
• Trump was/is adamant about is strong support of the 2A
• Trumps family is a very strong influence in his choices and they are most definitely pro 2A
• Vice POTUS Pence was grilled by the best AntiGun MSM when he was Governor of Indiana. The more they grilled him, the stronger he became in his resolve to stand up for the 2A.
So I think there is less than sufficient reasons to believe that POTUS Trump will fold on the 2A.
Biggfoot44
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- Aug 2, 2009
- 33,165
Ok, I'm still semi-skeptical of how Trump will actually govern. But as much if a flakey wild card he might be, he won't be anywhere near as bad as Obama has been, or Hillary would have been.
Oh, I know. You make a great suggestion to follow yourself.
Training may be standardized to be able to carry in all 50 states. Expecting some sort of background check is within reason also.
We all need to work together to keep the bar low, if those requirements get baked in to get some bedwetting democrats on board.
I think National Reciprocity could easily happen. That doesn't automatically let us carry in MD. But once the control of permit issuance is out of the MSP's hands, since they'll have to allow non-residents to carry here, they'll be such enormous pressure on them to allow residents to have permits as well, that I can see shall issue happening. It will be an interesting show for sure.
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