New York S2994 NIB : Annual Registration of All Firearms (with Fee)

knownalien · Mar 6, 2011

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It never ceases to amaze me how Legislators just don’t seem to get the concept of reality. Especially an individual who as a former Police Officer should know the Constitutional Rights of every American. That is their job.

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jpk1md · Mar 6, 2011

Application fee for a handgun license: $340.00.
Fingerprint fee: $94.2
Ass ****ing by the state without lube: Priceless

Seriously though, does anyone expect that SCOTUS would deem this to be unconstitutional

I personally don't in light of their opinion in Heller.

QuebecoisWolf · Mar 6, 2011

jpk1md said:
Seriously though, does anyone expect that SCOTUS would deem this to be unconstitutional

I personally don't in light of their opinion in Heller.

So what? Even if the SCOTUS strikes this down, NY will still make a killing in registration fees. They might have to give some of the money back, but that's still a nice little interest-free loan in a bad economy. There's nothing to lose. When the NRA challenges the law, a district attorney even gets to make a name for him or herself by "fighting to keep guns off the street."

Markp · Mar 6, 2011

jpk1md said:
Application fee for a handgun license: $340.00.
Fingerprint fee: $94.2
Ass ****ing by the state without lube: Priceless

Seriously though, does anyone expect that SCOTUS would deem this to be unconstitutional

I personally don't in light of their opinion in Heller.

That's the city... The state would be "cheaper" to register your rights with... How about an internet registration fee as well.... every internet accessible device would be subject to a $15 initial few and a $10 per year renewal.

So let's imagine I have 30 firearms, I would have to cough up $450, plus $300 per year for the privilege to execute my constitutionally guaranteed rights? Ummm... I suspect I wouldn't be able to stomach that... I would move or sue, obviously the penalties would be too stiff to ignore.

All I can say is obviously someone in NY hates freedom.

Mark

jpk1md · Mar 6, 2011

QuebecoisWolf said:
So what? Even if the SCOTUS strikes this down, NY will still make a killing in registration fees. They might have to give some of the money back, but that's still a nice little interest-free loan in a bad economy. There's nothing to lose. When the NRA challenges the law, a district attorney even gets to make a name for him or herself by "fighting to keep guns off the street."

But defending against lawsuits isnt free for the state, it costs them money to defend a case that gets escalated to District Courts/SCOTUS

Add on accounting and cost of cutting all those checks to citizens and in the end if forced to return the money it will be a huge net loss for the state.

Assuming it stands or is unchallenged the state will make bou cou money...and also drive a pile of people out of the state.

jpk1md · Mar 6, 2011

Markp said:
All I can say is obviously someone in NY hates freedom.

Mark

There are LOTS of folks in NY State Gov that hate freedom.

In many ways its worse than Md....a lot worse.

press1280 · Mar 6, 2011

While SCOTUS may not knock down all registration and/or fees, when you have fees that are more than many guns on the market, that won't fly.

MDFF2008 · Mar 6, 2011

jpk1md said:
But defending against lawsuits isnt free for the state, it costs them money to defend a case that gets escalated to District Courts/SCOTUS

Add on accounting and cost of cutting all those checks to citizens and in the end if forced to return the money it will be a huge net loss for the state.

Assuming it stands or is unchallenged the state will make bou cou money...and also drive a pile of people out of the state.

One thing I've noticed, these states don't care how much money they spend fighting it.

Fideo · Mar 6, 2011

NY is also suffering serious budget issues; worse than most states. Probably second only to California.

QuebecoisWolf · Mar 6, 2011

jpk1md said:
But defending against lawsuits isnt free for the state, it costs them money to defend a case that gets escalated to District Courts/SCOTUS

Add on accounting and cost of cutting all those checks to citizens and in the end if forced to return the money it will be a huge net loss for the state.

Assuming it stands or is unchallenged the state will make bou cou money...and also drive a pile of people out of the state.

True, but you're assuming politicians are rational. They probably didn't even think about these costs let alone that those podunk redneck gun owners would challenge the law.

john_bud · Mar 6, 2011

And they say California is full of flakes, fruits and nuts!

yellowfin · Mar 7, 2011

The entire idea is to drive gun owners out of the state. The politicians don't like the political and ideological competition.

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