I was in PG late one night with a group of friends and the cop did the same thing but phrased it in a way that when I replied I basically gave consent while at the same time meaning no. He said, "great!" and started opening my door and I held it closed. It turned into a tug of war with my door and I kept repeating ," I do not give consent! I do not give consent!" Him and his partner put everyone on the curb and me in handcuffs and searched the car anyways. I`ve had a few incidents like this play out in my younger years. Now I just shut up and don't play the game.You don't need PC to ask consent. That's why it's a consent search. You're asking for permission.
Most people don't have the balls enough to just say no and then shut up.
Your original stop (Speeding, etc..) has to be over (Your ID given back and free to go) before they can ask consent.
While getting your info they can ask if you have any contraband in the vehicle(you don't have to answer) but most will say no.
So when he gives you your ticket and ID he will say " Since you said you didn't have any contraband, you don't mind if I search your vehicle do you?".
Yes you do mind. And then it's time for you to leave and shut up at that point. Do not get into the conversation. You are free to go.
Police Officer here, one who used to work in Maryland in fact.
One of the first things I ask when I approach the driver is if they have any weapons or drugs in the vehicle.
"Am I being detained" should be sufficient.
My stock answer: "Yes. You are."
We both know that I just pulled you over. Why even ask? I mean, you're grown so do what you want, but coming right out of the gate with challenges to the officer's authority probably isn't going to make the encounter go in the direction that you'd like it to go in. Odds are real good that I don't know you and in that first 30-60 seconds I'm sizing you up to see if you strike me as a good-guy/average citizen or a possible bad guy with something to hide. If you're not a bad guy, just be a normal person and we'll both be going our separate ways in short order.
*****Very reasonable response IMO. I don't understand people who are deliberately confrontational with a peace officer, especially when they know they are being pulled over for speeding, or doing a smoky burnout and know they have weed or an unregistered illegal firearm in the car, open container of alcohol, etc.. Why make things harder on oneself by being deliberately confrontational with someone who is enforcing laws that you have clearly broken?
I've had the misfortune of being a passenger in a car where the driver is pulled over and immediately challenges and confronts the officer over the stop knowing full well they were pulled over for driving like an ass. A minor inconvenience for being pulled over with both you and the officer going your separate ways quickly now becomes your car being impounded, multiple fines, resisting arrest and going to jail for the night.
Some people are just stupid, and make things harder on themselves and then try and blame everyone else but themselves for doing monumentally stupid things. Everyone makes mistakes, but arguing and being beligerant and deliberately combative is probably not going to end well for the person if they get pulled over.
Some people are just not wired right I guess.
Lol this was funny the first hundred times. Dern coppersDefund all coppers.
From a few posts ago - is seeing that a Virginian with a carry permit is who you pulled over from their tags - considered probable cause in MD? Such that you don't need the driver's aquiescence of the search?My stock answer: "Yes. You are."
We both know that I just pulled you over. Why even ask? I mean, you're grown so do what you want, but coming right out of the gate with challenges to the officer's authority probably isn't going to make the encounter go in the direction that you'd like it to go in. Odds are real good that I don't know you and in that first 30-60 seconds I'm sizing you up to see if you strike me as a good-guy/average citizen or a possible bad guy with something to hide. If you're not a bad guy, just be a normal person and we'll both be going our separate ways in short order.
My stock answer: "Yes. You are."
We both know that I just pulled you over. Why even ask? I mean, you're grown so do what you want, but coming right out of the gate with challenges to the officer's authority probably isn't going to make the encounter go in the direction that you'd like it to go in. Odds are real good that I don't know you and in that first 30-60 seconds I'm sizing you up to see if you strike me as a good-guy/average citizen or a possible bad guy with something to hide. If you're not a bad guy, just be a normal person and we'll both be going our separate ways in short order.
My stock answer: "Yes. You are."
We both know that I just pulled you over. Why even ask? I mean, you're grown so do what you want, but coming right out of the gate with challenges to the officer's authority probably isn't going to make the encounter go in the direction that you'd like it to go in. Odds are real good that I don't know you and in that first 30-60 seconds I'm sizing you up to see if you strike me as a good-guy/average citizen or a possible bad guy with something to hide. If you're not a bad guy, just be a normal person and we'll both be going our separate ways in short order.
Ok... here's a question. For the most part (except for a couple of localities) it is perfectly legal in MD to carry an unloaded long gun in your vehicle so long as it is unloaded. I typically do. I have always been polite and professional in my few limited traffic stops and I have yet to be asked by a LEO (except by an MP on a military base) if i was carrying a weapon in the car. But if a LEO is going to ask me if I am carrying a weapon in the vehicle, right out of the gate, what would be the best course of action? I'm not going to lie, but I also don't want to instantly give the LEO cause to search my car and further detain me. I am likely to give a truthful but evasive response like, "There is nothing illegal in this vehicle". Probably any officer worth his salt is going to drill down on that, but that is probably all the info I'm going to provide. I'm never going to voluntarily consent to a search. My guess is I'll still wind up sitting on the curb while they toss my trunk, but it won't be because I consented or lied.
Probably. IMHO If they REALLY want to search it, they'll search it. They'll manufacture up probable cause and go to town.
If I'm going to/from the range and get pulled over; and asked if I have any weapons, the reply will be in the affirmative; followed by the reason. No idea if that'll would defuse the LEO's further intentions to search my vehicle. It would go badly if I lied and they manufactured probable cause and went ahead with the search.
But now you will be able to just defuse the situation with your new smile. Good luck with the dentistry by the way!
Probably. IMHO If they REALLY want to search it, they'll search it. They'll manufacture up probable cause and go to town.
If I'm going to/from the range and get pulled over; and asked if I have any weapons, the reply will be in the affirmative; followed by the reason. No idea if that'll would defuse the LEO's further intentions to search my vehicle. It would go badly if I lied and they manufactured probable cause and went ahead with the search.
Police Officer here, one who used to work in Maryland in fact.
One of the first things I ask when I approach the driver is if they have any weapons or drugs in the vehicle. You'd be surprised by the number of people who say yes right then. And personally, honesty goes along way with me. Typically I secure that weapon and we talk more about why you have it. I usually arrest for that but in some cases I've been known to take them out of their car and make them open their trunk and then the unloaded gun goes in the trunk with a warning not to do it again. That's certainly not department policy anywhere in MD that I know of but I've been doing this for a while and sometimes I cut people breaks depending on the circumstances. (And, no, I'm not going to list why I would/would not arrest.)
If someone says no and I have reason to do a search and I find it, they go down for it. Still feel bad for the high school teacher who had a Browning Hi-Power that he's bought "on the street" for protection. Found that in his car after he denied it. It was a beautiful FN Belgian gun with WW2 Nazi waffens and he'd paid some guy $200 for it. He went to jail. Actually I don't feel bad for him as much as I feel bad for the Hi-Power that got sent off to the foundry. I always wanted one like that in my collection and I still don't have one. I think he lost his job, too. That's unfortunate because he seemed like a nice guy otherwise.
My stock answer: "Yes. You are."
We both know that I just pulled you over. Why even ask? I mean, you're grown so do what you want, but coming right out of the gate with challenges to the officer's authority probably isn't going to make the encounter go in the direction that you'd like it to go in. Odds are real good that I don't know you and in that first 30-60 seconds I'm sizing you up to see if you strike me as a good-guy/average citizen or a possible bad guy with something to hide. If you're not a bad guy, just be a normal person and we'll both be going our separate ways in short order.