Deerfield, IL Assault Weapon Ban

Semper Noctem · Apr 6, 2018

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/d...ons-the-penalty-up-to-241000-a-day/ar-AAvw9Zm

If the 18,000 residents of the Chicago suburb don't forfeit or secure weapons that fall under the ban by June 13th, they will be charged from $200 to $1,000 a day as a penalty.

I imagine this is just the first.

iH8DemLibz · Apr 6, 2018

SuperSoap · Apr 6, 2018

Let’s see how that works out for the politicians.

wilcam47 · Apr 6, 2018

I wonder how they are going to enforce it...scary to see this in my lifetime in the USA!

iH8DemLibz · Apr 6, 2018

KyleBradley said:
Let’s see how that works out for the politicians.

They'll get reelected.

davsco · Apr 6, 2018

here is some of the language. they want to increase the public's "sense of safety." so they're basically saying this won't make a diff but at least the public will feel better.

WHEREAS, the corporate authorities of the Village of Deerfield find that amending
Village of Deerfield Ordinance No. 0-13-24 (July 1, 2013) to prohibit the possession, manufacture
and sale of assault weapons in the Village of Deerfield may increase the public’s sense of safety
at the public schools, public venues, places of worship and places of public accommodation located
in the Village of Deerfield; and
WHEREAS, the corporate authorities of the Village of Deerfield find that amending
Village of Deerfield Ordinance No. 0-13-24 (July 1, 2013) to prohibit the possession, manufacture
and sale of assault weapons in the Village of Deerfield may increase the public’s sense of safety
by deterring and preventing a mass shooting incident in the Village of Deerfield, notwithstanding
potential objections regarding the availability of alternative weaponry or the enforceability of such
a ban; and

davsco · Apr 6, 2018

so, what does protect our right of self defense? are we going to really call and wait for the cops? hit them over the head with a frying pan? hide in a closet? or maybe just take a beating with the hopes it won't result in death or injury?

WHEREAS, the corporate authorities of the Village of Deerfield find that, since the
enactment of Village of Deerfield Ordinance No. 0-13-24 (July 1, 2013), the possession,
manufacture and sale of assault weapons in the Village of Deerfield is not reasonably necessary to
protect an individual’s right of self-defense or the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated
militia;

GlocksAndPatriots · Apr 6, 2018

davsco said:
here is some of the language. they want to increase the public's "sense of safety." so they're basically saying this won't make a diff but at least the public will feel better.

WHEREAS, the corporate authorities of the Village of Deerfield find that amending
Village of Deerfield Ordinance No. 0-13-24 (July 1, 2013) to prohibit the possession, manufacture
and sale of assault weapons in the Village of Deerfield may increase the public’s sense of safety
at the public schools, public venues, places of worship and places of public accommodation located
in the Village of Deerfield; and
WHEREAS, the corporate authorities of the Village of Deerfield find that amending
Village of Deerfield Ordinance No. 0-13-24 (July 1, 2013) to prohibit the possession, manufacture
and sale of assault weapons in the Village of Deerfield may increase the public’s sense of safety
by deterring and preventing a mass shooting incident in the Village of Deerfield, notwithstanding
potential objections regarding the availability of alternative weaponry or the enforceability of such
a ban; and

Why shouldn't they do that? The 7th Circuit ruled that that was all the justification they need in Highland Park. I lay all the blame for this squarely on the cowards on SCOTUS that refuse to take any of these cases.

newmuzzleloader · Apr 6, 2018

SAF has already filed a lawsuit against this.

davsco · Apr 6, 2018

https://www.deerfield.il.us/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Agenda/_04022018-412

way down on pages 90 they have email correspondence relating to the ban. we should email these loonies with our opinions.

EL1227 · Jun 12, 2018

SAF wins on preemption

SAF was joined in the lawsuit by the Illinois State Rifle Association and Deerfield resident Daniel Easterday, who is a lawful firearms owner. SAF and ISRA had challenged the ban on the grounds that it violates the state’s preemption law that was adopted in 2013. That change amended state statute that declared “the regulation of the possession or ownership of assault weapons are exclusive powers and functions of this State. Any ordinance or regulation, or portion of that ordinance or regulation, that purports to regulate the possession or ownership of assault weapons in a manner that is inconsistent with this Act, shall be invalid…”

DC-W · Jun 12, 2018

EL1227 said:
SAF was joined in the lawsuit by the Illinois State Rifle Association and Deerfield resident Daniel Easterday, who is a lawful firearms owner. SAF and ISRA had challenged the ban on the grounds that it violates the state’s preemption law that was adopted in 2013. That change amended state statute that declared “the regulation of the possession or ownership of assault weapons are exclusive powers and functions of this State. Any ordinance or regulation, or portion of that ordinance or regulation, that purports to regulate the possession or ownership of assault weapons in a manner that is inconsistent with this Act, shall be invalid…”

Woo hoo!

More from SAF here https://www.saf.org/court-grants-injunction-in-saf-challenge-of-deerfield-il-gun-ban/

S&WDDS · Jun 12, 2018

Let's hope the rest of the state, outside of Chicago and it's burbs, has enough clout to prevent Springfield from wielding it's 'exclusive powers and functions" and banning them at the state level.

fred2207 · Jun 12, 2018

wilcam47 said:
I wonder how they are going to enforce it...scary to see this in my lifetime in the USA!

The local LE will do the bidding of their political masters...

Allen65 · Jun 12, 2018

S&WDDS said:
Let's hope the rest of the state, outside of Chicago and it's burbs, has enough clout to prevent Springfield from wielding it's 'exclusive powers and functions" and banning them at the state level.

Both houses of the Illinois legislature are majority D. The Senate is >60% D. But not quite enough to override a veto by GOV Rauner, an R. But he's not particularly popular (just barely squeaked by in the R primary this year), and will probably lose to the D candidate in November, a D who is a close affiliate of Rahm Emmanuel, so expect a full-on anti-2A Californication in IL next year at the state level.

jkeys · Jun 12, 2018

Good news!

Occam · Jun 12, 2018

So, the fight (from the SAF et al) is over the town's flaunting of state law, not of the Second Amendment? I get it - the IL preemption law violation was the low hanging fruit. And perhaps this wasn't the right time/venue to duke it out over the larger constitutional issues. But it does feel like it's just kicking the can down the road, where a lefty state legislature will just do the same damn thing to the whole state.

swinokur · Jun 13, 2018

And then perhaps it goes to SCOTUS.

swinokur · Jun 13, 2018

SAF Press release

COURT GRANTS INJUNCTION IN SAF CHALLENGE OF DEERFIELD, IL GUN BAN [

BELLEVUE, WA – A circuit court judge in Lake County, Illinois has granted an injunction against the Chicago suburb of Deerfield, blocking the village from enforcing a ban on so-called “assault weapons,” and handing a victory to the Second Amendment Foundation.

SAF was joined in the lawsuit by the Illinois State Rifle Association and Deerfield resident Daniel Easterday, who is a lawful firearms owner. SAF and ISRA had challenged the ban on the grounds that it violates the state’s preemption law that was adopted in 2013. That change amended state statute that declared “the regulation of the possession or ownership of assault weapons are exclusive powers and functions of this State. Any ordinance or regulation, or portion of that ordinance or regulation, that purports to regulate the possession or ownership of assault weapons in a manner that is inconsistent with this Act, shall be invalid…”

There was a short grace period during which municipalities in the state could change or adopt their gun laws, and Deerfield maintained that its ban was merely an amendment to an earlier ordinance that regulated firearms.
“We moved swiftly to challenge this gun ban because it flew in the face of state law,” said SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb. “The village tried to disguise its extremism as an amendment to an existing ordinance. The ordinance bans possession of legally-owned semi-auto firearms, with no exception for guns previously owned, or any provision for self-defense.

“Worse, still,” he added, “the ordinance also provided for confiscation and destruction of such firearms and their original capacity magazines. It was outrageous that the ban would levy fines of up to $1,000 a day against anyone who refused to turn in their gun and magazines or move them out of the village. This certainly puts the lie to claims by anti-gunners that ‘nobody is coming to take your guns.’”

Plaintiffs were represented by Glen Ellyn attorney David Sigale.

The Second Amendment Foundation (www.saf.org) is the nation's oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 650,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control.

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GlocksAndPatriots · Jun 13, 2018

swinokur said:
And then perhaps it goes to SCOTUS.

And they'll deny cert again. Gotta clear up the docket so that Kennedy can write opinions about the dignity of gay sex.

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