A Lot of Guns Being Bought

[Kev308] · Jun 17, 2021

Blacksmith101 said:
From the article:

Business owner so he qualifies.

I own a business called, "my family." We're incorporated.

Biggfoot44 · Jun 17, 2021

Blacksmith was accurate as to answering the WHY and/ or How Come He Can .

Doesn't mean Maryland Laws as Written and as Applied are Just, Fair, or Constitutional , but for the moment ,that's what IS .

( Assuming Kev308 is facetious about being CEO of a corporation name MY Family Inc )

Allen65 · Jun 17, 2021

[Kev308];6345384 said:
I own a business called, "my family." We're incorporated.

I was told I was joining a Partnership when I signed up to mine. But the other Partner insists running it as if she was Sole Proprietor. :sad20:

[Kev308] · Jun 17, 2021

Allen65 said:
I was told I was joining a Partnership when I signed up to mine. But the other Partner insists running it as if she was Sole Proprietor.

Lol, I guess we don't carry enough cash to qualify.

rseymorejr · Jun 17, 2021

[Kev308];6345384 said:
I own a business called, "my family." We're incorporated.

Me too, but we're a non-profit

Blacksmith101 · Jul 1, 2021

The Numbers are in for June 2021

The new NICS check numbers are in for June 2021....3,054,726. This number is down from last year which set the all time record for the month of June since the start of the program in 1998.
So far through the first 6 months of 2021 there have been 22,243,220 NICS checks processed.

As a bonus number for the data junkies I have calculated the number of NICS conducted per additional firearm in commerce for the year 2018. The data needed for this lags the report by two years. The Firearms Commerce In The United States Annual Statistical Update for 2020 is out but the latest Manufacturing data it contains is from 2018.

You can find the report here:
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/report/2020-firearms-commerce-report/download

You can find the methodology and the calculations for 2016 and 2017 in post number 149 of this thread:
https://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=5990041&postcount=149

2018
26,181,936 NICS checks
12,804,242 additional guns (total mfg. 9,052,628 + total imports 4,305,851 - total export 554,237 = number of additional firearms)
= 2.04479 NICS checks per additional firearm

teratos · Jul 1, 2021

Blacksmith101 said:
The new NICS check numbers are in for June 2021....3,054,726. This number is down from last year which set the all time record for the month of June since the start of the program in 1998.
So far through the first 6 months of 2021 there have been 22,243,220 NICS checks processed.

As a bonus number for the data junkies I have calculated the number of NICS conducted per additional firearm in commerce for the year 2018. The data needed for this lags the report by two years. The Firearms Commerce In The United States Annual Statistical Update for 2020 is out but the latest Manufacturing data it contains is from 2018.

You can find the report here:
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/report/2020-firearms-commerce-report/download

You can find the methodology and the calculations for 2016 and 2017 in post number 149 of this thread:
https://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=5990041&postcount=149

2018
26,181,936 NICS checks
12,804,242 additional guns (total mfg. 9,052,628 + total imports 4,305,851 - total export 554,237 = number of additional firearms)
= 2.04479 NICS checks per additional firearm

It would probably be higher if there were inventory and prices weren’t still a little inflated.

bigmancrisler · Jul 1, 2021

Unfortunately I didn’t do my part for the month of June

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ezracer · Jul 5, 2021

Been to 3 LGS's lately. Display cases "PACKED" to overflowing with handguns.
Didn't think to look at prices. Was looking for ammo.

Ammo? What ammo??? :sad20:

308Scout · Jul 5, 2021

ezracer said:
Been to 3 LGS's lately. Display cases "PACKED" to overflowing with handguns.
Didn't think to look at prices. Was looking for ammo.

Ammo? What ammo???

I've been seeing more of both in the last couple of months at LGSs. The prices on ammo were high (none close to early 2020) - i.e. same cost as a comparable online order with shipping (unless getting the bulk shipping rate). Both still lightly less than early this year. :shrug:

lazarus · Jul 6, 2021

ezracer said:
Been to 3 LGS's lately. Display cases "PACKED" to overflowing with handguns.
Didn't think to look at prices. Was looking for ammo.

Ammo? What ammo???

I haven't been to many LGS, but between those I have the last couple of months and online, gun prices still seem to be running about 20-30% above pre-pandemic prices. Not budging much, but inventory seems to be going up and up. So I assume prices will be coming down sooner rather than later. Especially with the softening of sales.

At a guess, most people who were going to be scared in to getting guns have gotten them. Either just the one, or they came back for more, because they realized they needed or wanted more. The regular buyers had plenty and weren't going to buy in that market (or very limited in what they'd buy).

So now sales are going to go down until supply pricing corrects to drive more entrants in to the demand side of the market.

Long way of saying I hope prices come down by this fall when I am thinking of getting a .357 revolver and threaded lever gun.

Speedfreak · Jul 6, 2021

ezracer said:
Been to 3 LGS's lately. Display cases "PACKED" to overflowing with handguns.
Didn't think to look at prices. Was looking for ammo.

Ammo? What ammo???

With 5 million new gun owners added since the Covid hoax, plus everyone still panic buying extra ammo when they can, the ammo shortage should last a good while longer. Heck, it may be a new normal!

jollymon · Jul 6, 2021

I was down in Georgia north of Atlanta for the weekend and made a trip to Adventure Outdoors in Smyrna Ga. with my friend we were staying with , They advertise them selves as the worlds largest gun store . I've never seen so many guns on display anywhere , I asked how many do you have and he told me with what they have on display and in the store room at around 19K , They had lots of ammo too , The price wasn't pre-covid but it's lower than I've seen in a long time , I picked up 2K rounds of CCI brass 124gr.9mm for 399.00 per 1K , Now I can do some trigger pulling without dipping into to my stash . The rest of the weekend was grilling and cold ones , We did have a good time blasting off fireworks .

Minor · Jul 6, 2021

Do you think this is market saturation? I'm noticing more ammo available and slightly lower pricing - "The new NICS check numbers are in for June 2021....3,054,726. This number is down from last year which set the all time record for the month of June since the start of the program in 1998."

Occam · Jul 6, 2021

Minor said:
Do you think this is market saturation? I'm noticing more ammo available and slightly lower pricing - "The new NICS check numbers are in for June 2021....3,054,726. This number is down from last year which set the all time record for the month of June since the start of the program in 1998."

Recall that last summer we were in Peak Riot and Democrats were using phony narratives to egg on violence, looting, arson and hobbling of the police in hopes of that somehow working in their favor in the November election. People bought a LOT of guns in response to that dynamic. The "I'll only ever need one gun" noobs probably are indeed saturated for now, pending any other big eruptions of violence like we saw last summer. But some percentage of them are probably now officially Gun Nuts and will shop again.

Those of us with piles of firearms aren't done and never will be. Uh, so I'm told.

ezracer · Jul 6, 2021

Occam said:
Recall that last summer we were in Peak Riot and Democrats were using phony narratives to egg on violence, looting, arson and hobbling of the police in hopes of that somehow working in their favor in the November election. People bought a LOT of guns in response to that dynamic. The "I'll only ever need one gun" noobs probably are indeed saturated for now, pending any other big eruptions of violence like we saw last summer. But some percentage of them are probably now officially Gun Nuts and will shop again.

Those of us with piles of firearms aren't done and never will be. Uh, so I'm told.

What guns??? I'm just here for the fun repartee!!

delaware_export · Jul 6, 2021

That’s a good place! Kick myself in the backside for not picking that AK for 300… in ‘09

jollymon said:
I was down in Georgia north of Atlanta for the weekend and made a trip to Adventure Outdoors in Smyrna Ga. with my friend we were staying with , They advertise them selves as the worlds largest gun store . I've never seen so many guns on display anywhere , I asked how many do you have and he told me with what they have on display and in the store room at around 19K , They had lots of ammo too , The price wasn't pre-covid but it's lower than I've seen in a long time , I picked up 2K rounds of CCI brass 124gr.9mm for 399.00 per 1K , Now I can do some trigger pulling without dipping into to my stash . The rest of the weekend was grilling and cold ones , We did have a good time blasting off fireworks .

MigraineMan · Jul 12, 2021

Wilson Combat's facility expansion -

Bob A · Jul 13, 2021

MigraineMan said:
Wilson Combat's facility expansion -

Pretty impressive. They're investing a lot of money in capital equipment; presumably they feel that the marketplace will not be impacted negatively by the political process.

I'd be interested to learn what percentage of their output would not have met QC standards, and subsequently been scrapped.

Blacksmith101 · Jul 13, 2021

4,000 pounds of aluminum for AR receivers per week. That is a lot of lowers! 104 tons of aluminum just for lowers per year.

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