- Feb 23, 2013
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If we get any favorable ruling on this case you can be sure the Democraps will be moving double time on their efforts to pack the court.
IDK if the justices work that way. They don't like being played but Drake was 7 years ago I think? NYSRPA was last year and technically this is NY state as the defendant, not the city.
Thomas is definitely all in at this point. Question is are 3 others down to take a case (specifically the same one)?
Scotus Justices are human and it is in our DNA to remember especially pain and deception.. I know the "right thing" is to say every case is a clean slate but our DNA won`t allow that even if it is subconsciously. One thing for sure Justice Alito has a memory like an elephant... also Italians never forget deception... I come from a long line of Italians & boy can we hold onto something ..LOL
Well I guess the question would be does Alito vote to hold off and wait for NJ to specifically slap them down or does he go ahead with what’s here now, knowing if NY loses here then NJ is also finished?
Not on today’s orders list.
Are we in the writing a dissent territory yet? Given the 9th circuit Young opinion, I would guess that Thomas would want to respond to that decision.
Apparently the Court rejected 4 out of the 5 2A cases that were up for cert (3 felon prohibition, 1 storage related and this case).
https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/2021/04/scotus-gun-watch-week-of-4-19-21/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/politics/second-amendment-supreme-court/index.html
I thought this was not supposed to happen. I thought ACB was going to change everything. Maybe the problem is not the justices. Maybe it might have to do with the arguments.
Watching this crap go back and forth for more than a half century now, I really do have to agree.The court has rejected challenges or failed to hear cases more than twice the number of times that they have reversed a gun control law...Putting your hope in the court is a sure fire way to a quick buzzkill. They are never going to preserve the 2A like it should be..it's never going to happen...
I thought this was not supposed to happen. I thought ACB was going to change everything. Maybe the problem is not the justices. Maybe it might have to do with the arguments.
If the problem is the arguments, then the problem is those making them because the same 2A attorneys have been making those arguments repeatedly. Who do you think might be an attorney with the appropriate skills, experience, and willingness to try different arguments before SCOTUS on 2A issues? Who would you go to instead of Gura and Clement?
If the problem is the arguments, then the problem is those making them because the same 2A attorneys have been making those arguments repeatedly. Who do you think might be an attorney with the appropriate skills, experience, and willingness to try different arguments before SCOTUS on 2A issues? Who would you go to instead of Gura and Clement?
If the court actually believed the 2A means no infringement then there wouldn't need to be any compelling arguments by pro 2A lawyers. The very fact that pro gun groups have to basically prove infringement shows that SCOTUS has little intention of every upholding our rights to the level the Constitution requires.
I am not sure I would entirely blame the lawyers. In a lot of respect it is the people hiring them. They seem more interested in pushing an agenda than actually winning. When something is not working, you need to adjust the strategy, yet they never do.
That is how I figured it out. I sat in on the Kolbe preliminary injunction thinking that it would be a cakewalk. Turns out we lost. I spent a lot of time researching the issues to figure it out.
The lawyers are not without blame. They could do the same thing, but they seem to present the same arguments again and again.
Say what?