A new day for 2A in MD

trickg said:

Something that I think needs to be considered that really weighed on this election and helped to determine the outcome as much as anything else was low voter turnout.

Consider the following numbers:

Election2002
KKT---813422
BE---879592
Total---1695016


Election2006
MOM---942279
BE---825464
Total---1769749

Election 2010
MOM---1044961
BE---776319
Total---1823290

Election2014
AB---771242
LH---847,280
Total---1620536

That's in the neighborhood of 200,000 voters between 2010 and 2014 who didn't bother to show up at all.

The Republican voter numbers, with the exception of 2010, has been pretty consistent, and it would seem that with MOM's ballooned numbers in 2010 that Republicans still had a similar turnout - they just voted for MOM, further boosting his numbers.

This year even fewer voted than back in 2002, and that by itself speaks volumes.

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Z_Man said:

the time to challenge these individuals is durring the primary. some places are more full of people that will vote for anything with a D in front of it. in those places the election that matters is the primary. if you can un seat an incumbent durring the primary, durring the next election you will get an R or I or L to oppose the new D.

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HiballHiside said:

Yeah, i loved the flappy yellow signs that said "vote for the democrats"

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kshaw said:

One of the big problems that I saw was that all the delegates in Montgomery County had "F" ratings from NRA but no one opposed them. We need to have candidates to oppose them even if they do no campaigning other than a web site and possess a high NRA rating. The lack of any challengers just creates an invincible attitude.

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Jasen said:

I hate to be the guy who burst the bubbles but Marylanders are not getting CCW's.

He specifically said he is not going to make any changes to the laws that allow citizens in good standings to get permits. Mds only hope for real change was Quinn for Gov.

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dogbone said:

I hate to burst your bubble but the entire 2A debate was not what influenced this election. We got lucky in that enough people were pissed off about taxes and other government stupid to turn out to the polls and say "Enough!" The 2A community may have contributed some votes but we were not the biggest force in this election. Expecting magical results from a relatively small input into the decision is going to be counterproductive to the long term struggle to restore our rights. Quinn, if he even won in some delusional libertarian dream, could do no more for us than Hogan.

What it is going to take is some patience, some smart thinking, and a whole hell of a lot more work than we have put forth so far.

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Jasen said:

I know that but if you listen to what people are saying on this site they think CCWs are coming soon. Its just not gonna happen.

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Mr H said:

Allow me to help.

Many of these people are not so much expecting CC, as much as they are demanding the push start now.

Those of us (and there need to be more) who have been on the inside know better than to think it can simply be wished into existence based on a 2-day old election.

[Demand] in haste, regret at leisure.

Just because folks demand something, doesn't make it do-able or sensible.

Yes, we should be allowed our say, but there's a whole lot more understanding that needs to happen before we get to the next GA session.

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Jasen said:

I hate to be the guy who burst the bubbles but Marylanders are not getting CCW's.

He specifically said he is not going to make any changes to the laws that allow citizens in good standings to get permits. Mds only hope for real change was Quinn for Gov.

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Jasen said:

What makes everyone think he is going to try and start the process for it if he said he is not. In his interview he said that he will not make it easier for law byding citizens.

Let me just say I have a Utah permit and i want a Md one. I am not happy about the election results but i am happy Brown did not win.

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teratos said:

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Quinn wouldn't have done much better....

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swinokur said:

A law change is not required to allow CCW issuance to citizens. An order from the Gov to MSP is all that is required.

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trickg said:

Let's get Hogan another 4 years, and send Frosh packing. Those are the two things I'd most want to see.

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Jasen said:

My arguement for Quinn is just that I would hope more 2a guys would want to vote for a candidate who said he is for eliminating the AR band and ccws for citizens.

Im prob just not good at pandering to the electorates in MD.

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bobthefisher said:

I would like to propose we put together a 2A gathering\event in Annapolis in the next couple weeks. Sooner the better, while the iron is hot! Have MSI coordinate the event. We need to show Annapolis that we're an organized group within Maryland politics and must be taken seriously... plus a bit of a victory lap

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Jack McCauley said:

I surrendered my badge to fight for the rights of our citizens. I am relentless in my pursuit to right the ship. This election has given us a small step forward. I would do anything that was in the best interest of everyone. Governor Hogan has much to consider when weighing his options for key government support positions. To stop sounding like a politician...Hell yes!!!

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