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Old November 13th, 2017, 12:01 PM #1
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.22 Machine Guns

OK.... now that all of my Form 4s are out of jail, it is time to start saving, plotting, and planning for the next purchase.

I'm tossing around the idea of buying a .22 RF machine gun (haven't committed to this notion yet), so I wanted to throw the question out to the experts.

Would you choose an American 180 or a converted Ruger 10/22. I kind of figured that the Ruger might be a cheaper option, but a check of recent trends show them both to be around the $12-14K range (with the Ruger perhaps averaging a bit higher than the American).

Anyone have thoughts on this. Are there other options besides these two to consider?

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Old November 13th, 2017, 12:25 PM #2
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I've been lucky enough to shoot both of the guns you mentioned. The only down side i can say from my limited exposure to the American 180 is that loading the drum sucked. I'd rather load a bunch of BX25 mags for a 10/22.
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I own both. The American 180 will be cheaper to buy. Probably $8K+/- less. The 180 is a ton of fun to shoot, but it can also be very frustrating. Mags take a few minutes to load. And they can be accidentally emptied when removed from the gun if you don't shut off the winder. The Norrell 10/22 is also lots of fun. Its pretty simple and just needs regular cleaning. I shoot the 10/22 a lot more. Its one of my goto guns now to bring to every FA shoot.
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Thanks to you both... the one thing I was worried about with the American was finding magazines... not like you can just stroll across state lines into any old store and pick one up from the shelf. Are they semi-readily available back in America, or are they hen's teeth?
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I'd rather load a bunch of BX25 mags for a 10/22.
Mine likes the cheaper clear Champion Mags better than BX25s. Its also nice to be able see how many rounds are left in the stack.



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Thanks to you both... the one thing I was worried about with the American was finding magazines... not like you can just stroll across state lines into any old store and pick one up from the shelf. Are they semi-readily available back in America, or are they hen's teeth?
You can get them from Val at E&L. He's very nice and equally helpful. He sells and services everything related to the AM180.
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AWESOME. Thank you rsideout! You are always a wealth of information regarding anything Class III. Appreciate it!
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AWESOME. Thank you rsideout! You are always a wealth of information regarding anything Class III. Appreciate it!
If you can find it, a subcal kit on top of an M-11/9mm is much cheaper than the other alternatives. I've had great luck with butler creek mags and the BDM drum, but I have yet to get the BX mags to feed at all.
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If you can find it, a subcal kit on top of an M-11/9mm is much cheaper than the other alternatives. I've had great luck with butler creek mags and the BDM drum, but I have yet to get the BX mags to feed at all.
Good god.

I want to write my name in the snow with that.
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If you can find it, a subcal kit on top of an M-11/9mm is much cheaper than the other alternatives. I've had great luck with butler creek mags and the BDM drum, but I have yet to get the BX mags to feed at all.
Is that a Fleming .22 upper on your M11/9? I've got one that fits on an M11A1 but it doesn't run very well.
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