Shotgun vs. muzzleloader?

SOMDSHOOT · Aug 22, 2013

wilcam47 said:
Hell that's GOOD if he got that pattern...I was more like 2 feet low at 50yds!! and only one pellet lit...the other spiraled and could be seen going down range!! I said it in a different post you'd have better luck lighting horse turds that that shockey pellets I threw mine away at Myrtle grove range and never felt better!

LOL yeah the same thing happened to a buddy of mine and he had run and stomp the pellet out before it caught the grass on fire. Then another situation the pellets flew out of the muzzle and looked like a stunt by the Blue Angles. Those were the Triple Seven pellets. You know the popular ones with the oil on one end. I don't have to think about which end of my powder has to go in the barrel first, but, you have to think about it with pellets.

wilcam47 · Aug 22, 2013

from my limited experience the loose powder kicks harder than the pellets...and as long as its dry it fires!

SOMDSHOOT · Aug 22, 2013

byf43 said:
Point well made.

I do have about 250-300 lbs (±) of cast boolits in my shed, that someone left at the range, with a note saying, "Take it. Free!", several years ago.

I've thought about melting it all down, and start casting, but, other interests have lured me away from that, for now.

Here's an example of my input about anyone casting their own bullets. These are my 255 grain tack drivers I cast for my pistol. These bullets cost me less than $20.00 to cast with the Harvester sabots included. You can't buy this many bullets from a store without really thinking about it.

In commercial store bought bullets there is over $200.00 worth of bullets in this photo. I cast $200.00 worth of bullets for less than what a 20 pack cost at the store. I have many friends who appreciate my ability to cast bullets and save them some big bucks as well.

I like to shoot my guns and not worry about the cost. With the added feature of my bullet trap I can recycle my lead and the savings keep piling up.

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SOMDSHOOT · Aug 22, 2013

wilcam47 said:
from my limited experience the loose powder kicks harder than the pellets...and as long as its dry it fires!

In all of my years I have NEVER had a single FTF from loose powder. I can't say that pellets. Pellets have all kinds of silly issues.

SOMDSHOOT · Aug 22, 2013

I shipped out a box of my cast muzzleloader bullets to GhettoBlaster to try out in his new gun this morning, so, hopefully he will reply back with some updates on them in his new gun. I think I shipped him about 75 bullets of various weights and designs to experiment with, so, he's got plenty of options to choose from.

sywl95 · Aug 22, 2013

SOMDSHOOT said:
Ok now that we know who the reply was aimed at we can understand your reply. I don't think a Mosin is a Shotgun or a Muzzleloader that the OP decided on, so, it really doesn't apply to the OP interests to begin with.

oh, well....

bigjohn · Aug 22, 2013

in Delaware, you can hunt with the muzzle loader in shotgun season but not shotgun in muzzle loader season.

SOMDSHOOT · Aug 22, 2013

bigjohn said:
in Delaware, you can hunt with the muzzle loader in shotgun season but not shotgun in muzzle loader season.

Same here in Maryland. We don't have a Shotgun Season we have a Firearms Season.

wilcam47 · Aug 23, 2013

SOMDSHOOT said:
I shipped out a box of my cast muzzleloader bullets to GhettoBlaster to try out in his new gun this morning, so, hopefully he will reply back with some updates on them in his new gun. I think I shipped him about 75 bullets of various weights and designs to experiment with, so, he's got plenty of options to choose from.

How much$$..?? Do you have .50 cal that isn't a .45 sabot?

SOMDSHOOT · Aug 23, 2013

wilcam47 said:
How much$$..?? Do you have .50 cal that isn't a .45 sabot?

No sir everything I cast is .44 or .45 in a 50 cal.

Here's a few examples of what I shipped out.

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DaveP · Aug 23, 2013

Franklin said:
Pyrodex and black powder are obsolete and corrosive.

Goex 2F for the WIN.
NOTHING better, either for your rifle or your soul.

freddie · Aug 23, 2013

If you can swing a larger budget - LHR Redemption is an awesome muzzleloader - Made in America.

wilcam47 · Aug 23, 2013

SOMDSHOOT said:
No sir everything I cast is .44 or .45 in a 50 cal.

Here's a few examples of what I shipped out.

cool, for some stupid reason Idaho fish and game doesn't allow sabots...they want a straight .50cal or bigger...and no 209 primered ML's :sad20:

bigjohn · Aug 27, 2013

SOMDSHOOT said:
Same here in Maryland. We don't have a Shotgun Season we have a Firearms Season.

reason I mentioned that is that you get a much longer shooting range than what the average slug gun will do. down side is rate of fire but how many times do you actually get a legit shot on a running deer after the first shot

Franklin · Aug 27, 2013

bigjohn said:
reason I mentioned that is that you get a much longer shooting range than what the average slug gun will do. down side is rate of fire but how many times do you actually get a legit shot on a running deer after the first shot

what would an average slug gun be? i know people who are shooting out 250-300 yards with 20 gauge slug guns and scary accurate at that.

SOMDSHOOT · Aug 27, 2013

bigjohn said:
reason I mentioned that is that you get a much longer shooting range than what the average slug gun will do. down side is rate of fire but how many times do you actually get a legit shot on a running deer after the first shot

You only get one shot with a muzzleloader and that's all you need with any gun. And who even attempts to shoot at a running Deer anyway. That's both dangerous and stupid.

SOMDSHOOT · Aug 27, 2013

Franklin said:
what would an average slug gun be? i know people who are shooting out 250-300 yards with 20 gauge slug guns and scary accurate at that.

I have pushed my little Rossi 20 gauge to 150 yards, but, never have I ever had a need to shoot beyond 50-60 yards. I know some guys who can sling a slug a few hundred yards, but, I can't recall ever shooting a Deer beyond 30-40 yards in my life. Never had to.

Franklin · Aug 27, 2013

SOMDSHOOT said:
I have pushed my little Rossi 20 gauge to 150 yards, but, never have I ever had a need to shoot beyond 50-60 yards. I know some guys who can sling a slug a few hundred yards, but, I can't recall ever shooting a Deer beyond 30-40 yards in my life. Never had to.

im good for 200 and I exercise that with extreme prejudice.

byf43 · Aug 28, 2013

SOMDSHOOT said:
I have pushed my little Rossi 20 gauge to 150 yards, but, never have I ever had a need to shoot beyond 50-60 yards. I know some guys who can sling a slug a few hundred yards, but, I can't recall ever shooting a Deer beyond 30-40 yards in my life. Never had to.

My son's first deer was a 7 point (left browtine was broken, or it would have been a nice 8 pointer), taken on a soybean field.

The shot was taken with my Remington 870 slug gun, with (2-3/4") Winchester "Partition Gold" sabot rounds.
The shot was 125-135 yards.
The 385 grain slug hit just at the right shoulder and took out both lungs and the top of the heart.

Incredible shot. Incredible first deer!

SOMDSHOOT · Aug 28, 2013

Franklin said:
im good for 200 and I exercise that with extreme prejudice.

I started wearing glasses about 10 years ago. Even with a good scope I can't see 200 yards LOL

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