Mak for home defense

offthepaper · Sep 8, 2017

I have several of the guns being debated here, East German Mak in pristine condition (100% reliable and accurate), a CZ82, same condition, A Tok, and P64. As stated the 9x18 well placed rounds are nothing to sneeze at. The Reds killed plenty with them. My bedside gun is the CZ82 for some of the reasons stated, 12 rounds, good sights, good enough trigger, and 100% reliable after about 1200 rounds fired along with low recoil. That said the EG Mak is also a reliable (reliable as an AK), but the lower round count and mag release is the only drawback for me, but that's just me.
Also as stated, well placed 9x18 trumps missed 44 Mags in HD.
I also like the Bersa but do not own one.
The AR has waay too much penetration for where I live.
HD long gun in my home is a 20ga pump shotty. Again low recoil for follow-up shots and low penetration, except when it finds something soft.

frogman68 · Sep 9, 2017

I took my Texas LTC with a 1927 . I would use it for CCW but not home defense. Just like taking a trip across the country, would you rather ride in a 50 year old car or a brand new one?

Brychan · Sep 9, 2017

I find it funny that a few folks have said one pistol is good enough to carry outside the house, but not good enough to carry at home. Seems backwards to me. Away from home it's all you have, at home it just has to be enough to get to your other firearms.

frogman68 · Sep 9, 2017

Brychan said:
I find it funny that a few folks have said one pistol is good enough to carry outside the house, but not good enough to carry at home. Seems backwards to me. Away from home it's all you have, at home it just has to be enough to get to your other firearms.

Simple. Outside I will be wide awake and have my wits also , I can adapt and overcome. Being awoke at say 2am I wont be too clear headed to adapt

scjamesm · Sep 9, 2017

arbud said:
Alright guys, I have other goodies for anyone who would want to break into my house. I am aware that the 9x18 round is not the best for bad situations. But, say the placement was in good places would 6 rounds take care of a bad situation or would you need 8. I am considering between a P64 and a regular Makarov. What do ya think. Bud

Go with a regular Mak or a CZ-82. The p-64 actually hurt my hand due to the ergonomics of the gun sending all of the recoil between the webbing of my thumb and pointer finger.

BeoBill · Sep 9, 2017

John from MD said:
You can buy C&R guns without a HQL.

That's why I have an FFL-03.

scjamesm said:
Go with a regular Mak or a CZ-82. The p-64 actually hurt my hand due to the ergonomics of the gun sending all of the recoil between the webbing of my thumb and pointer finger.

Try Polish Iron replacement grips. They slip on and will make your P64 a joy to shoot.

scjamesm · Sep 9, 2017

I used those. Just wasn't a fan of the gun, though it did help me get training exempt on my hql form so the gun did help in that way.

Biggfoot44 · Sep 9, 2017

Re #63 , & conventional wisdom home vs CCW -

Conventional thinking is at home size & concealment isn't an issue . At home more likely to just quickly grab just the gun , while when you strap up for carry, you have the opportunity to bring additional reloads.

Not that I totally agree with all of that . Inbetween my predilictions for larger carry guns, and potentially discreet Home defense handguns, the two catagories pretty much are merged .

BeoBill · Sep 10, 2017

scjamesm said:
I used those. Just wasn't a fan of the gun, though it did help me get training exempt on my hql form so the gun did help in that way.

Glad to hear it worked out for you. :thumbsup:

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