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Old May 21st, 2017, 09:31 PM #31
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However MD considers the lower to be "the gun", therefore the MSP advisory makes perfect sense. The numbnuts who wrote the law had no concept of this and our side had no intention of spelling it out for them.
It is not just MD, the ATF considers the lower the firearm.

In order to possess a banned rifle today, you need to have possessed it before Oct 1 2013. The problem is that a stripped lower is not considered a banned rifle so you cannot technically have possess a banned rifle prior to Oct 1, 2013 (unless it was previously put into that configuration).

If the law was simply about buying and selling, I would agree with you. The problem is that it includes possession, which is why you cannot buy a lower today and turn it into one of the banned rifles.

Maybe they realize the difficulty in proving that the lower was turned into a banned rifle before Oct 1, 2013.

The thing that still concerns me is that they still have an out when they say you still need to comply with other State laws. This could technically still mean that the conversion/assembly had to take place prior to Oct 1, 2013 to be legal.
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It is not just MD, the ATF considers the lower the firearm.

In order to possess a banned rifle today, you need to have possessed it before Oct 1 2013. The problem is that a stripped lower is not considered a banned rifle so you cannot technically have possess a banned rifle prior to Oct 1, 2013 (unless it was previously put into that configuration).

If the law was simply about buying and selling, I would agree with you. The problem is that it includes possession, which is why you cannot buy a lower today and turn it into one of the banned rifles.

Maybe they realize the difficulty in proving that the lower was turned into a banned rifle before Oct 1, 2013.


The thing that still concerns me is that they still have an out when they say you still need to comply with other State laws. This could technically still mean that the conversion/assembly had to take place prior to Oct 1, 2013 to be legal.
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Building on a preban (10/2013) ar-15 lower

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OP, the word 'after' has the opposite meaning of the word 'before'.
As in, what is now was (GRIN)...
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OP, the word 'after' has the opposite meaning of the word 'before'.
This made me laugh on an otherwise shitty Monday morning.
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