So what if Hogan wins a Second term?

whistlersmother · May 10, 2018

TexDefender said:
I disagree. To vote for a Lefty will expedite the 2A rights erosion. Until someone from this forum, that has a brand name recognition and a serious chance to win. You simply expedite the process, it didn't become this way overnight, it's not going to change overnight.

expedite the process? with (d) or (rino), we're getting to the bottom anyway. what's the difference if its 2 years or 4 years from the election?

simply, hogan will win without us and he will win with us. he will lose without anti-2a support.

he made his choice and i've made mine - to hell with him.

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RepublicOfFranklin · May 10, 2018

Muleskinner said:
Please elaborate. I would like to know exactly how you think it's going to be Leaps and Bounds better. Since the general assembly can pass any bill into law they wish and Hogan cannot stop them there is absolutely no way it's going to be Leaps and Bounds better. Hogan is not a dictator he cannot make any law that only thing he can do is veto bad Bill passed by the general assembly. He has already proven that he's not willing to do that with gun control laws. So I'll ask again how will it be Leaps and Bounds better? I'll save you the trouble. It won't be. Remove Hogan and put anyone else in that seat. It makes absolutely no difference whatsoever.

Here you go: as to gun laws there probably won’t be a huge difference, minus the legislation won’t be directed from the top down.

At least with a Republican governor he’ll put up a fight on taxes.

I’m voting in the GA races republican as well.

Outside of natural disasters taking down the voting population of Baltimore, PG, and MoCo all we can do is hold the line and hope the Supreme Court can back us up.

Just my two cents.

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Schipperke · May 10, 2018

Hooogan !!!

SCV/SAR Patriot · May 10, 2018

As much as I try I can’t come up with anything significant this guy has done from previous administrations. If anything he’s still carrying out their agendas with stuff like funding planned parenthood, Casa De Maryland illegal alien stuff and now “free” college education. Then he throws those who brought him to the dance under the bus with the anti constitutional bs he signs into law with a big ole grin on his face.

dist1646 · May 10, 2018

Jim12 said:
Then give us an ELECTABLE alternative. None of this Shawn Quinn ********.

I am afraid you are trapped inside the box. Think outside the box and we can do great things here in Maryland.

First, we need to make those who stand against the Bill of Rights pay the price for doing so!

How do we do this?
1. Vote those we can out of office. Sends the message that we have not sent in decades. We will not tolerate the erosion of liberty, by any party!
2. Turn operation DINO into a fire breathing dragon with teeth.
Do this by infiltrating the democratic party and getting yourself a position of influence. Run for office as a democrat! Yes, democrats own guns too. Objective, actually change the party from within and do so in a positive manner!

Hogan's change Maryland slogan is nothing more than that, just a slogan.
We can actually do it, if we work together! It will not happen overnight, it will take time.

Not_an_outlaw · May 10, 2018

Muleskinner said:
Please elaborate. I would like to know exactly how you think it's going to be Leaps and Bounds better. Since the general assembly can pass any bill into law they wish and Hogan cannot stop them there is absolutely no way it's going to be Leaps and Bounds better. Hogan is not a dictator he cannot make any law that only thing he can do is veto bad Bill passed by the general assembly. He has already proven that he's not willing to do that with gun control laws. So I'll ask again how will it be Leaps and Bounds better? I'll save you the trouble. It won't be. Remove Hogan and put anyone else in that seat. It makes absolutely no difference whatsoever.

I would add to that - If Hogan is elected, the republicans wont fight him. If was a democrat, they would.

JaegerJason · May 10, 2018

dist1646 said:
I am afraid you are trapped inside the box. Think outside the box and we can do great things here in Maryland.

First, we need to make those who stand against the Bill of Rights pay the price for doing so!

How do we do this?
1. Vote those we can out of office. Sends the message that we have not sent in decades. We will not tolerate the erosion of liberty, by any party!
2. Turn operation DINO into a fire breathing dragon with teeth.
Do this by infiltrating the democratic party and getting yourself a position of influence. Run for office as a democrat! Yes, democrats own guns too. Objective, actually change the party from within and do so in a positive manner!

Hogan's change Maryland slogan is nothing more than that, just a slogan.
We can actually do it, if we work together! It will not happen overnight, it will take time.

Changing the Democrat party is an interesting idea. Considering it's falling apart, it seems plausible. Convince enough people to elect the new, sane version of Democrats, dumping the extreme social progressives, communists, primary-stealers, etc., and you just may have something. 90% of the state will vote just because there's a D after the name anyway, so all one would have to do is beat the media.

1ceman · May 10, 2018

dist1646 said:
I am afraid you are trapped inside the box. Think outside the box and we can do great things here in Maryland.

First, we need to make those who stand against the Bill of Rights pay the price for doing so!

How do we do this?
1. Vote those we can out of office. Sends the message that we have not sent in decades. We will not tolerate the erosion of liberty, by any party!
2. Turn operation DINO into a fire breathing dragon with teeth.
Do this by infiltrating the democratic party and getting yourself a position of influence. Run for office as a democrat! Yes, democrats own guns too. Objective, actually change the party from within and do so in a positive manner!

Hogan's change Maryland slogan is nothing more than that, just a slogan.
We can actually do it, if we work together! It will not happen overnight, it will take time.

If I didnt know better, it looks like what you wrote above is what the Dems have done to us. They infiltrated us by sending us Hogan, a RINO.

inkd · May 10, 2018

This guy happily signed away our right to due process for the simple fact that we are firearms owners. Think about that. Take away the firearms aspect of it. He signed a law, denying due process. That should be frightening to everyone on this board.

East2West · May 10, 2018

whistlersmother said:
you do realize the MGA can do anything it wants to do now, right? A Dem governor OR the MGA can already pull NJ and CA restrictions on us. Hogan or any other slug in the governor's office can't stop it.

They can abolish the governership and override the veto.

Hogan has sided with the anti's, shown he's willing to spend our money, and doesn't have any pull in the MGA.

At this point, he is useless, helpless, and for many of us, hopeless.

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No you're missing the point. Supposedly if a Dem is governor the MGA will come up with gun control plans they are incapable of developing with a Republican Governor. And things will just be so much worse than they are now.

The Hogan apologists here can't decide if he's helpless against the MGA's anti-2a campaign or if hes the only one that can stop them.

danb · May 10, 2018

dist1646 said:
...
It will not happen overnight, it will take time.

A very looooooong time. Nothing you've suggested will happen between now and Nov.

Nobody is debating the merits of your idea. The question is what to do in the interim.

Right now the Dems in MD are torn between leftist and leftister. It will take a shock, like a 2 term republican gov to shock them into realizing that they have gone too far.

But maybe they haven't. It sounds to me as though people here want O'Malley back.

44man · May 10, 2018

danb said:
A very looooooong time. Nothing you've suggested will happen between now and Nov.

Nobody is debating the merits of your idea. The question is what to do in the interim.

Right now the Dems in MD are torn between leftist and leftister. It will take a shock, like a 2 term republican gov to shock them into realizing that they have gone too far.

But maybe they haven't. It sounds to me as though people here want O'Malley back.

Remind me, did O’Malley get confiscation without due process or get to ban anything that you already owned without grandfathering?

Blacksmith101 · May 10, 2018

Remember anyone who does not vote looses their right to complain for the entire term.

44man · May 10, 2018

Blacksmith101 said:
Remember anyone who does not vote looses their right to complain for the entire term.

Right now Shawn Quinn gets my vote

I have to figure out who to vote for as my rep , senator I have choices

I see folks here voting, hopefully just not for hogan

Matlack · May 10, 2018

How many 3rd party candidates are currently elected in this country? You can count them on about 2 hands. Many of them switched after being elected as a major party candidate.

So for everyone in this thread who have said they would vote for anyone other than Hogan ... you are essentially saying you would burn your house down because it got a little dirty. You would rather throw away your rights just to prove a point. Good on you, stick to it. You will probably be first in line to turn them in when the next liberal progressive dem governor pushes a confiscation bill.

inkd · May 10, 2018

danb said:
Right now the Dems in MD are torn between leftist and leftister. It will take a shock, like a 2 term republican gov to shock them into realizing that they have gone too far.

Yeah, cause he really gave them hell this term!!!!!

:lol2:

inkd · May 10, 2018

Matlack said:
So for everyone in this thread who have said they would vote for anyone other than Hogan ... you are essentially saying you would burn your house down because it got a little dirty. You would rather throw away your rights just to prove a point. Good on you, stick to it. You will probably be first in line to turn them in when the next liberal progressive dem governor pushes a confiscation bill.

I figure anyone who would willingly vote for a person who stripped us of due process is probably more likely to be at the head of the line to turn in their guns.

fred55 · May 10, 2018

Matlack said:
So for everyone in this thread who have said they would vote for anyone other than Hogan ... you are essentially saying you would burn your house down because it got a little dirty. You would rather throw away your rights just to prove a point. Good on you, stick to it. You will probably be first in line to turn them in when the next liberal progressive dem governor pushes a confiscation bill.

Any party seeing their previous voter base move to another party, perhaps even independent, will realize they are out of touch with their constituents and need to think why. Or like our 2A rights that party will be gone... Fred55

East2West · May 10, 2018

Matlack said:
How many 3rd party candidates are currently elected in this country? You can count them on about 2 hands. Many of them switched after being elected as a major party candidate.

So for everyone in this thread who have said they would vote for anyone other than Hogan ... you are essentially saying you would burn your house down because it got a little dirty. You would rather throw away your rights just to prove a point. Good on you, stick to it. You will probably be first in line to turn them in when the next liberal progressive dem governor pushes a confiscation bill.

Wait the people taking a stand on a principle will be the ones to turn in guns first??? I would surely think the "yeah but he's a Republican we gotta support him coz it'll e worser if the other guy wins" crowd would be the first to turn them over. Espescially when your hero Hogan is the one signing the law.

Matlack · May 10, 2018

Yes, keep your blinders on. Please sit back and watch as a major gun grabber dem gets elected just so you can stick it to the man!!!

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