I’m done being unarmed in Baltimore. Watch these videos!!
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Pretty sure Mike was collecting video evidence that Gansler's assertion that open carry of long guns was legal, but the reality is that it isn't/wasn't a good idea. Part of an overall strategy to combat MD's G&S that failed in the long run. Lots of folks tried their best to work towards eliminating G&S. So far, unsuccessfully.
If you don't mind sharing where did those occur? What block or at least street name or part of the city. In theory anywhere in the city is a possibility.
Thanks
md123
Ultimate Member
- Jul 29, 2011
- 2,005
Looks like a bunch of NRA members preying on the community again.
Zorros
Ultimate Member
Sorry not to know, but what is G&S. I know mike, and yes, he spent a lot of time on 2A issues, maybe enough so that he lost his seat where i vote. But i am appreciative of him and his efforts. Sometimes over the top somthese lost effectivness. But better than not being tried.
- Dec 13, 2015
- 1,940
Good and substantial, i.e., greater than average threat to you personally.
I'll add, Good and Substantial is an arbitrary threshold requirement established by the Licensing Division (LD) that must be achieved to qualify for a carry permit. Sadly, there is absolutely NO empirical definition that has ever been enacted. It is up to the Licensing Division to evaluate the totality of a person's circumstances before they will consider issuing a permit (which they most often deny anyway). Or, in the minority of applications, they issue a permit so heavily restricted that it may be a challenge to abide by the nebulously worded restrictions.
To qualify for a permit, an individual must be able to prove that they have an apprehended danger that is greater than that of the average citizen. That is most often interpreted by the LD to mean that the individual is transporting items of value which would make him/her more likely to be the victim of a robbery or assault. Or that they can document that there is an ongoing threat to their life.
In Maryland, the current pattern would lead an intelligent person to believe that the LD thinks that it is more honorable and legal for a person to be the victim of a random violent crime than to allow that person to be able to prevent the assault and defend themselves. That it is better to get beaten, raped, robbed, kidnapped or murdered than it would be for that individual to be able to prevent it by having a concealed carry permit. That is the real effect of G&S.
I am sure he worked a 60 hour week for years on end to pay his bills and with what was left over after taxes etc, legally bought his weapon at a gun store or better yet via Gun Show loopholes because there weren't enough "common sense" gun laws to prevent him from doing so too.
Zorros
Ultimate Member
Hah. I have a ccw and didnt know what G&S was. Yes, indeed. You need to take great care to lay the factual foundation for this requirement. Md Not as easy as utah.
A crazy person? I don't see the fascination with the main character of Falling Down.
ToneGrail
MSI, NRA, & SAF Member
The Democrats who run the city don't mind this. In their eyes its income redistribution to a bloc of their constituents -- unemployed minorities on govt assistance. They're probably laughing at the irony of knowing that the victims are also voting for them.
Fd3stt
Member
Baltimore resident here.
I live in federal hill, been here for 2 years now. My wife has been here for about 10 years. Most of my neighbors are not just friends, but REALLY good friends. I was apprehensive about moving here because of crime, but the tight knit nature of the community quelled my fear.
At least initially.
I don't care what the numbers and statistics bear. I no longer feel safe walking even a couple blocks from my house. My wife gets home late enough that she usually can't park on our street. She stops by and I ride with her so she doesn't have to walk alone. It isn't enough though, considering the types of attacks that have been happening.
It pains me to think about moving away from my friends, but that thought is now a daily occurrence. Sadly I don't see any other way. The leadership in Baltimore is shit, has been shit for decades, and will likely be shit far into the future.
I live in federal hill, been here for 2 years now. My wife has been here for about 10 years. Most of my neighbors are not just friends, but REALLY good friends. I was apprehensive about moving here because of crime, but the tight knit nature of the community quelled my fear.
At least initially.
I don't care what the numbers and statistics bear. I no longer feel safe walking even a couple blocks from my house. My wife gets home late enough that she usually can't park on our street. She stops by and I ride with her so she doesn't have to walk alone. It isn't enough though, considering the types of attacks that have been happening.
It pains me to think about moving away from my friends, but that thought is now a daily occurrence. Sadly I don't see any other way. The leadership in Baltimore is shit, has been shit for decades, and will likely be shit far into the future.
DentonDog
Member
Really sad. I stay clear of Bmore, but the evil there is spreading into other areas. Can't understand why the legislature is so blind to this, and when noticed, pass laws that only encourage it.
I follow this forum from Ohio. I do it I suppose because its hard to look away from a train wreck. How the proud people of MD can allow this... I just don't get this. I watch that vid and keep expecting that victim to defend himself until I come to the realization that his government won't allow it.
I pray you can somehow change this up and can get your rights. It sickens me.
I pray you can somehow change this up and can get your rights. It sickens me.
That’s how it all starts. SODA
tailgunner
Active Member
In baltimore it my be easier to ask for forgiveness then permission ie. Better alive then dead if you know what I mean.
Grendelicious
Member
- Mar 29, 2017
- 25
And yet the only thing I'm hearing anyone say is ban ARs... Not enact any single meaningful degree of countermeasure at schools like we have at almost any office building or store, not analyze and effect why mentally unstable people are so easily able to get guns, not talking about meaningful laws that would ACTUALLY reduce the majority of gun crimes (poor people with shitty guns shooting other poor people)... but ban ARs. An AR is the only thing that would let me stand a chance against these scum. Tell me this wouldnt stop happening if even a single alert citizen in his apartment was allowed to intervene with a few well placed rounds of 556...
- Dec 13, 2015
- 1,940
I encourage you to testify to this effect on every relevant gun Bill. Personal stories are, unfortunately, far more persuasive than facts to the legiscritters. If you've never done it, don't sweat it. It is easy. See the stickies in the MD 2A forum. I'm going tomorrow.
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