Is it LEGAL???

Recon_D0c · Aug 4, 2017

hey all,

I am in the military and originally from MD. I am being told by several store owners that I can buy "Rifle-X" a non HBAR rifle from NC (my current duty station) and can legally bring it to MD when I am done with the military? Is this true? I am told registering is a volunteer only thing and there is nothing I can be charged with should I reside in MD.

Thank you!

iH8DemLibz · Aug 4, 2017

Welcome to MDS.

AlBeight · Aug 4, 2017

Recon_D0c said:
hey all,

I am in the military and originally from MD. I am being told by several store owners that I can buy "Rifle-X" a non HBAR rifle from NC (my current duty station) and can legally bring it to MD when I am done with the military? Is this true? I am told registering is a volunteer only thing and there is nothing I can be charged with should I reside in MD.

Thank you!

As long as you legally buy it out of state per that state's laws, you can bring it to MD along with every other legal purchase (i.e. 30 rd mags, etc...). All of MD's dumb laws are about purchasing, to the best of my knowledge there aren't any possession rules you'd be breaking. If I'm wrong about that someone on this site will correct me quickly.

Name Taken · Aug 4, 2017

AlBeight said:
As long as you legally buy it out of state per that state's laws, you can bring it to MD along with every other legal purchase (i.e. 30 rd mags, etc...). All of MD's dumb laws are about purchasing, to the best of my knowledge there aren't any possession rules you'd be breaking. If I'm wrong about that someone on this site will correct me quickly.

Nope...if it's brought after 2013 it's a no go in the State regardless of where it came from if it's a non HBAR "normal" AR-15. There is some conversation to be had if it's a piston rifle and different calibers.

Further I would think the FFL is wrong for selling an item you can't legally have in your home state.

Other wise we'd all head to PA and buy non HBAR's, normal TAVORS, and unmolested PS90's and bring them back.

Doctor_M · Aug 4, 2017

Correct... you need documentation that you owned any now-banned weapon before October 2013 in order for it to be grandfathered. Buying one now means you can't bring it into MD. Which just sucks.

AlBeight · Aug 4, 2017

Doesn't that only apply to MD residents purchasing out of state? If he's in the military I'm not sure how that affects his technical residency, but as long as he can be designated a non-MD Resident can't he buy out of state & bring in? Someone that's lived in Montana for 40 years can't bring his Montana bought AR to MD when he moves here? This might be where the "registration" could come into play?

BradMacc82 · Aug 4, 2017

It's pretty simple. Rifles BANNED in MD cannot be brought into MD if they were purchased after FSA2013, cut and dry.

If you decide to do it, the burden of proof is on YOU, not the state.

94hokie · Aug 4, 2017

AlBeight said:
Doesn't that only apply to MD residents purchasing out of state? If he's in the military I'm not sure how that affects his technical residency, but as long as he can be designated a non-MD Resident can't he buy out of state & bring in? Someone that's lived in Montana for 40 years can't bring his Montana bought AR to MD when he moves here? This might be where the "registration" could come into play?

If he owned it before 10/1/2013 he can bring it in. Otherwise it is illegal to bring it into the State of Maryland if you move here.

Recon_D0c · Aug 4, 2017

AlBeight said:
Doesn't that only apply to MD residents purchasing out of state? If he's in the military I'm not sure how that affects his technical residency, but as long as he can be designated a non-MD Resident can't he buy out of state & bring in? Someone that's lived in Montana for 40 years can't bring his Montana bought AR to MD when he moves here? This might be where the "registration" could come into play?

that's what I was basically told. If I become a NC resident, I can buy any NC legal gun(everything ever made) and can then bring it to MD when im out of service. Does not matter that it was after 2013, the law is in place for MD residents regarding purchasing.

Literally crossing my fingers. Most MD compliant AR's just aren't cutting it for me.

JohnnyE · Aug 4, 2017

This was explored in an earlier thread. https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=192028
Forgot this link...see item 8 in the OP. https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=114585

Conclusion is that an out-of-state resident who purchased a now-banned firearm after September 30, 2013 may not bring it with him when moving into Maryland. If the out-of-state resident purchased a now-banned arm before FSA 2013 took effect, they could bring it into Maryland when establishing residency.

ted76 · Aug 4, 2017

AlBeight said:
Doesn't that only apply to MD residents purchasing out of state? If he's in the military I'm not sure how that affects his technical residency, but as long as he can be designated a non-MD Resident can't he buy out of state & bring in? Someone that's lived in Montana for 40 years can't bring his Montana bought AR to MD when he moves here? This might be where the "registration" could come into play?

Only the one's owned prior to Oct. 1,2013 can be brought in by anyone except LEO & a FFL, except FFL 001, if I correctly recall FSA2013.

KevinK · Aug 4, 2017

Recon_D0c said:
that's what I was basically told. If I become a NC resident, I can buy any NC legal gun(everything ever made) and can then bring it to MD when im out of service. Does not matter that it was after 2013, the law is in place for MD residents regarding purchasing.

Literally crossing my fingers. Most MD compliant AR's just aren't cutting it for me.

Bold Black: Law applies to everyone, not just MD residents.

Bold Red: Crossing your fingers you're not caught breaking the law if you bring a post 10/1/2013 bought banned rifle into Maryland?

Recon_D0c · Aug 4, 2017

next question, if I bring one in........how will they know if its post 2013? It's volunteer registration, I just wouldn't register it. how is any of this enforced? have you guys been in a situation where you had to prove you were rocking a HBAR?

StantonCree · Aug 4, 2017

Recon_D0c said:
next question, if I bring one in........how will they know if its post 2013? It's volunteer registration, I just wouldn't register it. how is any of this enforced? have you guys been in a situation where you had to prove you were rocking a HBAR?

We don't discuss law breaking here

94hokie · Aug 4, 2017

Recon_D0c said:
next question, if I bring one in........how will they know if its post 2013? It's volunteer registration, I just wouldn't register it. how is any of this enforced? have you guys been in a situation where you had to prove you were rocking a HBAR?

It's not volunteer registration. You have 90 days to register any regulated weapon when you move here. Since a HBAR is not a regulated weapon it would not have to be registered. Handguns and anything that was regulated prior to 10/1/2013 and is now banned would have to be registered.

Recon_D0c · Aug 4, 2017

how is anyone to assume its not an HBAR? again.....I do not have to register the rifle because it is an presumed HBAR

BradMacc82 · Aug 4, 2017

Recon_D0c said:
next question, if I bring one in........how will they know if its post 2013? It's volunteer registration, I just wouldn't register it. how is any of this enforced? have you guys been in a situation where you had to prove you were rocking a HBAR?

The burden of proof in a court of law is going to be on YOU, not the state, to prove the rifle is not in the state illegally. Being found guilty means you lose the ability to legally buy/own firearms.

Everyone has to live their own lives, and everyone decides what risks their willing to accept.

**And now is a good time to remind everyone that in the forum rules, there's distinctly warnings about discussions on how to circumvent the laws of this state, even if we may not like them.

Recon_D0c · Aug 4, 2017

is there a company that specializes in selling JUST HBAR for MD compliance????? If not hell, lets start one right now. these rules are INSANE.

Atlasarmory · Aug 4, 2017

Anyone know if you can you inherit a banned firearm purchased after 2013 owned by a parent out of state . As in your parent living out of state purchases rifle in West Virginia in 2014 passes away in 2017. Can you inherit that firearm if you live in MD ? Or can you only inherent a firearm that was owned in the state before 2013 ?

HordesOfKailas · Aug 4, 2017

There are tons of HBAR options out there.

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