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Old May 17th, 2021, 08:51 PM #11
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In optics, you get what you pay for. If Steiner is selling these for significantly less money than their military examples, there's a reason for the lower price.

Which is not to say they aren't worth it. A lot depends on the requirements of the user.

BTW, I've picked up some very nice used Leitz binos for reasonable money. But you have to be careful about things like poor collimation, fungus on the inner surfaces of the lenses, and general damage. Beyond a certain age limit, they will not be properly repairable.
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I've had a pair of the older 8x30 Safari's for a while now and like them. Their low light performance is noticeably better than the Pentax compacts I had favored, and I really like the auto-focus. Since then I've found Vortex Diamondbacks deliver a lot of bang for the buck.
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Trying to read up more on these binoculars. Unless I am missing something, which isn't only possible, but likely, Steiner doesn't claim their Military/marine line to be fog or water proof. Did they change that line of optics in the last few years? I seem to remember back in the 2000s that they were more similar to the military line both in looks and features(less the reticle and LPF) than they are now.
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I had a pair of Fujinon (not Fuji) 7x50 Marine Binoculars several years ago (stolen late 2010s), they were clearer/brighter than the Steiner in my opinion.

May want to check around here for some extra binocular info too.. https://www.cloudynights.com/ it's the only one I remember offhand.
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I bought my son a pair of Steiner's when he was in high school (10+ years ago) and they've proven to be very good for him.
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Save money and get to the $500+ mark
Get a set of 10x42 or perhaps 8x42
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Yes. Worth the cheddar.

Donít look through Leicas or Swarovski. Youíll never ask again if itís worth it.

Optics is a fascinating world. $ talks.

I have a couple of Steiners. Love them.
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A couple of years ago I went through this at work with lifecycle replacement for some of our binoculars and our night vision stuff. We brought in a bunch of vendors, consulted with other departments and did a pretty fair amount of field testing. We eventually went with Steiner for the laser rangefinder requirement and for our "big eyes" requirement.

The other major contender was Zeiss. In our case it was decided that while the Zeiss were likely objectively better, the Steiner were a massive upgrade from our old equipment and frankly more than sufficient for what we really needed.
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Watch for fakes and some of the Steiner low end stuff. They make a few models on the lower end which I would not do.

Research before you buy. Don't expect a "killer deal", rarely happens with optics.

SWFA is my go to for glass, check there. They have a discount page of demos which is worth checking.
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Thanks for all the input, guys. I really appreciate it. After careful consideration, I think I have settled on 10x50 binoculars. I know 7x will have less image shake, but that's never been a huge issue with me. Out of all my binoculars that I have owned, I keep going to a 10x, especially my 10x50s. Does any one know of a brick and mortar store that carries the 10x50 military/marine Steiners? The only place I see on Steiner's website is West Marine and they don't carry that model from what I see online. Id really like to take a look at the current production before I make a final decision and put that much money down on something. I will still be looking at other brands that are in the range of what the Steiner M/M 10x50s go for, but so far in set on the Steiners.
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