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Old November 14th, 2018, 10:33 PM #171
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WTF is wrong with people? Who in their right mind can even come close to thinking this is nothing more then a complete violation of our rights.
Sit in on domestic court for a couple weeks and come back to us with an updated opinion.

I know some people who act as court monitors. Most of them have to take breaks because the cases are too emotionally draining.
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So the system works somewhat as intended. 114 people made their case that they were at risk. The system thought only 1/2 of the cases made it over evidence bar. That could be because there was no evidence, because a case was dropped or because the defendant had a better lawyer. There is no way to tell without more information.
How can a defendant have a "better lawyer" if he is not present? What evidence other than hearsay is required in a red flag PO?
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I guess no one here actually knows anyone who's been 1302'd? (or a LEO who has participated?) I have some questions about the process that could best be answered by someone involved first hand...like would I be allowed to open my safe for the nice officers, or do they chop their way in while I'm in cuffs? How do we retrieve my firearms that may be stored at another location? What if we can't find a couple? Will my father be able to retrieve his rifle that was in my safe because I was working on it?

I hear they are supposed to take all my ammo too...do they know in advance to bring a big enough truck? A Crown Vic trunk or two just ain't gonna cut it If my wife offers to move out (or kick me out) right then and there, can she at least keep her guns and ammo?
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So the system works somewhat as intended. 114 people made their case that they were at risk. The system thought only 1/2 of the cases made it over evidence bar. That could be because there was no evidence, because a case was dropped or because the defendant had a better lawyer. There is no way to tell without more information.


No offense, but you don't have a clue how this works. Google ex-parte.
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Old November 15th, 2018, 08:03 AM #175
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So the system works somewhat as intended. 114 people made their case that they were at risk. The system thought only 1/2 of the cases made it over evidence bar. That could be because there was no evidence, because a case was dropped or because the defendant had a better lawyer. There is no way to tell without more information.
The defendants donít get to have a lawyer until after their guns are arrested and they have been issued the order
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The defendants donít get to have a lawyer until after their guns are arrested and they have been issued the order


And how many people are willing and able to find and pay for a lawyer on such short notice?


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Well at 5 am when they bang on your door I would suppose most lawyers are in bed like many folks so I would suspect not many, unless they have one on retainer
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Well at 5 am when they bang on your door I would suppose most lawyers are in bed like many folks so I would suspect not many, unless they have one on retainer


My comment was in reference to the hearing date.


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I gotcha, I misunderstood but the answer would be about the same, unless you had one on retainer or had money to spare very few would be able to procure a lawyer that quickly

Just for reference I was sued once about an accident with a piece of farm equipment, the person who sued me got nothing and I paid just over 10k in lawyer fees to protect me from something I did not do
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I gotcha, I misunderstood but the answer would be about the same, unless you had one on retainer or had money to spare very few would be able to procure a lawyer that quickly

Just for reference I was sued once about an accident with a piece of farm equipment, the person who sued me got nothing and I paid just over 10k in lawyer fees to protect me from something I did not do
That is horrible. We need a law that if you sue someone and lose you pay the court/lawyer costs.

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