Shooting AR pistol with brace
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I took mine off and just run a rubber sleeve on my AR pistol now. Its much lighter, better looking, and once I got used to it feels fine shouldering just the buffer tube.
Anyone want to buy a "like new" FDE Sig brace?
I don't think you can shoulder the buffer tube either.
I don't think you can shoulder the buffer tube either.
Show me the law and I'll stop shouldering my (edit: factory configured) pistols.
- Jul 29, 2014
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I took mine off and just run a rubber sleeve on my AR pistol now. Its much lighter, better looking, and once I got used to it feels fine shouldering just the buffer tube.
Anyone want to buy a "like new" FDE Sig brace?
...or two?
j_h_smith
Ultimate Member
- Jul 28, 2007
- 28,516
Show me the law and I'll stop shouldering my (edit: factory configured) pistols.
Show me the law where a Sig brace is illegal if shouldered? There's a letter of understanding, but that's all.
100% correct.
- Jul 29, 2014
- 49,992
Just gotta resist the yuotube temptation
safecracker
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- Feb 26, 2009
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Can anyone provide a legal distinction - or even a bureaucratic "opinion" - that explains the difference between placing SIG brace against one's shoulder as opposed to placing a buffer tube against one's shoulder?
I somehow doubt it.
I somehow doubt it.
- Jul 29, 2014
- 49,992
I wouldn't press that issue too hard either.
I don't think it really matters. A pistol is a pistol, and the law doesn't designate a correct way to shoot it.
Let me just clarify that when I said I removed my sig brace it was not because i was nervous about the ATF letter and think that shouldering the buffer tube is a more acceptable solution. I really didnt like the brace on there because its rather heavy (the first gen) and ugly. I much prefer just the tube and a sleeve.
DutchV
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- Jul 8, 2012
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I never thought the Sig brace was all that great. I've just got a crutch tip, and a rubber innertube cover on the buffer tube. Seems to work well enough. (A crutch tip is only a few bucks, and I saw the ATF letter that read "a crutch tip is not a stock". So good enough for me.)
My 2 cents: The best stability for an AR pistol is pushing it out against a shoulder loop strap.
Not to mention, it is an inexpensive, lawyer-free option.
Not to mention, it is an inexpensive, lawyer-free option.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
It doesn't matter in the short term what the "law" says. If BATFE interprets it in a certain way, if you violate that interpretation, you could be arrested and have to fight in court (paying the bills).
In the end, you win (no jail) if they cannot support their interpretation, but at what cost (arrest, court, lawyer fees, etc).
Form 1 SBR is $200 and a couple of months (with a trust).
In the end, you win (no jail) if they cannot support their interpretation, but at what cost (arrest, court, lawyer fees, etc).
Form 1 SBR is $200 and a couple of months (with a trust).
And easier to sling carry.
Biggfoot44
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- Aug 2, 2009
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Here's a stab :
A SIG Brace type thingie is arguably *Intended* to facilitate firing from shoulder.
A Buffer Tube is inherently an intrigal part of the firearm necessary for it to function. ( leastwise for actual AR based firearms, AR tubes adapted to other designs where not needed to function, are setting toes upon a slippery slope.
What R&R said about sling tension.
If magically an AR didn't require a buffer and spring, I'd be glad to shorten my AR pistol by that amount.
A SIG Brace type thingie is arguably *Intended* to facilitate firing from shoulder.
A Buffer Tube is inherently an intrigal part of the firearm necessary for it to function. ( leastwise for actual AR based firearms, AR tubes adapted to other designs where not needed to function, are setting toes upon a slippery slope.
What R&R said about sling tension.
If magically an AR didn't require a buffer and spring, I'd be glad to shorten my AR pistol by that amount.
DutchV
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- Jul 8, 2012
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There's one or two of these around. Piston designs. Rock River makes one, I believe. I'll keep mine with the buffer tube just the same. Even without shouldering it, the third point of contact at the cheek improves accuracy a lot over floating it out in front.
j_h_smith
Ultimate Member
- Jul 28, 2007
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Please read this article. It speaks the truth and explains what has become a very convoluted subject.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/12/foghorn/calm-pistol-brace-ruling-hasnt-changed/
It's a short read, but a very well written article.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/12/foghorn/calm-pistol-brace-ruling-hasnt-changed/
It's a short read, but a very well written article.
- Feb 4, 2013
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Someone should design an upper that does not require a buffer tube.
The FN FAL rifle has a buffer tube also. But the Para version, with folding stock, puts the recoil spring in the dust cover above the bolt.
The FN FAL rifle has a buffer tube also. But the Para version, with folding stock, puts the recoil spring in the dust cover above the bolt.
j_h_smith
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- Jul 28, 2007
- 28,516
That's good for everything except that pesky MD interpretation. Tough to get a real pistol to also meet that greater than 29 inch SBR thingy. Have MD over rule that and I bet there'd be a bunch of SBR applications to the ATF from the great state of Maryland.
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