Savage 1917

DutchV · Mar 29, 2019

Here's a Savage 1917 I've had on my bench for the last six weeks, soaking in Remoil. The slide won't budge, although the hammer and trigger do work. Any ideas what to try next? I was considering shooting it a bit, if I can get it freed up. Still need to find a magazine but there's no point in that yet.

Thanks, Dutch

mawkie · Mar 30, 2019

Kroil. If that doesn't work nothing will. I'd also consider removing the grips and then applying a bit of gentle heat via heat gun. Has to be hardened lube, looks too well kept to be corrosion. A bit of heat would soften that. But that would be my last resort, try Kroil first. It's the best penetrant I've ever used.
A beautiful example, good luck getting it going!

DutchV · Mar 30, 2019

mawkie said:
Kroil. If that doesn't work nothing will. I'd also consider removing the grips and then applying a bit of gentle heat via heat gun. Has to be hardened lube, looks too well kept to be corrosion. A bit of heat would soften that. But that would be my last resort, try Kroil first. It's the best penetrant I've ever used.
A beautiful example, good luck getting it going!

Thanks for the tip. I had forgotten about Kroil.

I'm surprised this one is so clean. It had been kept in a soft leather holster for a long time.

somd_mustangs · Mar 30, 2019

Take the grips off first before dunking it in Kroil

BeoBill · Mar 30, 2019

That's a real beauty! I hope you get her running again. :fingerscrossed:

Art3 · Mar 30, 2019

Crazy thought, but have you checked down the barrel to make sure there isn't a corroded round or Omega lock in the chamber?

DutchV · Mar 31, 2019

Art3 said:
Crazy thought, but have you checked down the barrel to make sure there isn't a corroded round or Omega lock in the chamber?

Yup, I checked. It's clear. I used a chopstick as a depth gage so I wouldn't get a surprise.

Melnic · Apr 1, 2019

I have had success with kroil as well on a number of gun and non gun related items.
When that did not work, I bring in gentle heat cycling.

heat cycling will free many things up.
If the grips are the only thing plastic, then as mentioned removing that then heating up one part and not the other will make things expand and contract.

Here is what I often do to things like screws that get stuck:

We all know that heating things will make it expand and cooling will contract.
Heat up what is convenient with a heat gun then let it sit. keep doing this with like an hour or two pause between heating up.
Eventually things will loosen up. You don't want to use a blow torch or anything so hot that you are changing the metallurgy.
And you definitely don't want to be heating things up to the point of discoloring.
140F is the point where the normal human can touch something and then hold for 10 seconds before being painful to hold. That is usually where I start.
Cycling say between 140F and 70F can be enough to loosen up many things.
Its that temperature cycling that separates the 2 things that are stuck.

If its lube/grease, just the heating up once and letting it sit can do the trick.

Years go when my work had different ownership, I brought in "something" that I wanted to free up. We have an industrial temperature chamber.
I programmed it to temperature cycle from 160F down to 40F back and forth once per hour. Had it in there for 8 hours and pulled it out and yup, all free.

mawkie · Apr 1, 2019

Melnic said:
I have had success with kroil as well on a number of gun and non gun related items.
When that did not work, I bring in gentle heat cycling.

heat cycling will free many things up.
If the grips are the only thing plastic, then as mentioned removing that then heating up one part and not the other will make things expand and contract.

Here is what I often do to things like screws that get stuck:

We all know that heating things will make it expand and cooling will contract.
Heat up what is convenient with a heat gun then let it sit. keep doing this with like an hour or two pause between heating up.
Eventually things will loosen up. You don't want to use a blow torch or anything so hot that you are changing the metallurgy.
And you definitely don't want to be heating things up to the point of discoloring.
140F is the point where the normal human can touch something and then hold for 10 seconds before being painful to hold. That is usually where I start.
Cycling say between 140F and 70F can be enough to loosen up many things.
Its that temperature cycling that separates the 2 things that are stuck.

If its lube/grease, just the heating up once and letting it sit can do the trick.

Years go when my work had different ownership, I brought in "something" that I wanted to free up. We have an industrial temperature chamber.
I programmed it to temperature cycle from 160F down to 40F back and forth once per hour. Had it in there for 8 hours and pulled it out and yup, all free.

Too funny! I sell all sorts of lab equipment and one category is environmental chambers and lab ovens. Never occurred to me to program the PID controller to ramp up, dwell, ramp down and then repeat the cycle. Clever!

Boxcab · Apr 1, 2019

To help the Kroil penetrate, tap on the gun with a rubber mallet or the like. The vibration "moves" the oil faster into the crevices.

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LKGMADMAX · Apr 1, 2019

A nice example of a 1917, modest finish wear. Good luck breaking her loose. You've been given some good tips.

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Oldcarjunkie · Apr 26, 2019

Good looking pistol, i hope you get it going

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