is my one point sling on right?

hogarth · Dec 4, 2016

Now I shall explain the biggest issue with the single point sling.

Once you "drop the carbine", whether it's to use both hands, transition to pistol, etc, not only does it whack your nuts, but it is also now a pendulum that swings all over the place. You will lose control over the muzzle. Thus, you will still need one hand to maintain control over the muzzle which, in my opinion, completely defeats the purpose of having a sling in the first place.

Forget the single point! Get a VTAC, VCAS, or SOB sling and be done with it. If you live close enough to me (I'm in the Timonium area) I'd be happy to show you how to set one up, especially since I too am a dwarf.

BTW, I looked back at your original pic and see now that you do have it attached at the castle nut. My mistake. But you also have the sling over the wrong shoulder. So that's not helping.

Finally, is that a Gettysburg College tee? Or just a tourist Gettysburg one?

hogarth · Dec 4, 2016

Here's a vid that might be worth a look-see:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LoGh-tZtKKA

MacGuns · Dec 4, 2016

ascorb said:
You know, I just noticed i've never seen a dwarf person actually shoot a rifle not even on youtube, that'll interesting to see

Semper Noctem · Dec 4, 2016

I run the MS4 as a 2 point, one on my rail and one on my stock. I like the idea of being able to switch to a 1 point in a moment though.

ClutchyMcClutcherson · Dec 4, 2016

hogarth said:
Now I shall explain the biggest issue with the single point sling.

Once you "drop the carbine", whether it's to use both hands, transition to pistol, etc, not only does it whack your nuts, but it is also now a pendulum that swings all over the place. You will lose control over the muzzle. Thus, you will still need one hand to maintain control over the muzzle which, in my opinion, completely defeats the purpose of having a sling in the first place.

Forget the single point! Get a VTAC, VCAS, or SOB sling and be done with it. If you live close enough to me (I'm in the Timonium area) I'd be happy to show you how to set one up, especially since I too am a dwarf.

BTW, I looked back at your original pic and see now that you do have it attached at the castle nut. My mistake. But you also have the sling over the wrong shoulder. So that's not helping.

Finally, is that a Gettysburg College tee? Or just a tourist Gettysburg one?

If he shoots right handed it's over the correct shoulder.

hogarth · Dec 4, 2016

ClutchyMcClutcherson said:
If he shoots right handed it's over the correct shoulder.

No, it is not.

Reference any if the old Magpul videos with Haley and Costa, or Mike Seeklander here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hdnxk_32pQ8

Edit:

Here's why you run it the other way, unless you shoot pistol lefty and carbine righty (due to some cross dominance issues or whatever):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RW7PCYyeIk0

ClutchyMcClutcherson · Dec 4, 2016

My apologies. You're correct. I wear mine over my right shoulder and under my left arm. I had to imagine putting it on while saying that out loud while looking at the picture to get it straight. Ha!

DeadeyeJack · Dec 4, 2016

Everyone has an opinion, so here is one more.
If you are right handed, the sling is over the wrong shoulder. I agree it looks like there is some extra length on the end of the sling.
A single point is fine for 99.99% of users who just want to keep it from clattering to the concrete at the range. If you are playing GI Joe, or in some kind of competition which involves running around with it retained, a 2 point will probably be a better set up.

Doobie · Dec 4, 2016

I have a Vicker's VCAS two point sling and it works well for me. I avoided the single point.

Rack&Roll · Dec 4, 2016

OP, before you give up on your single-point sling there is one more thing you can do to bring the rifle higher up on your chest.

In your picture in post #1, your rifle covers up your attachment scheme, but in the pic below, I believe this is what you are using--with me leaving the rifle out.

It looks like you are bringing your sling around front on your chest and clipping into a Magpul loop-and-clip segment, which drops your attachment point down almost FOUR inches. So from the point where your sling comes together on the front of your chest, the clip that grabs the ring on your rifle is located almost four inches BELOW your sling circle. That is what you see in the pic below.

(Note I am pulling down on the Magpul segment to simulate the weight of the rifle. See that the sling--with rifle weight on it-- assumes a right angle that drops the sling segment going over your shoulder STRAIGHT down. And to reiterate--you had your sling on the wrong shoulder in post #1. For right handed shooters, it should run under your LEFT armpit.)

Rack&Roll · Dec 4, 2016

Here's what happens when you remove the Magpul attachment segment. The attachment point for your rifle, instead of being around your mid-torso, is now at your upper chest.

Rack&Roll · Dec 4, 2016

Find a third attachment clip that accepts the clips on your one-point sling, and then attach this third clip to the ring at your castle nut.

Bingo, rifle rides high, with your rifle muzzle above your knee cap, so you can kneel without banging the muzzle.

(For noobs, just about any factory rifle you purchase WILL NOT have a clip loop at the castle nut location--which is where the buffer tube meets the receiver. You will have to purchase this loop plate and, as a noob, have a gunsmith or a savvy friend with the proper AR wrench put it on for you. See ClutchyMcClutcherson's picture in his post #32 for what this plate looks like. As noted earlier, attaching a single-point sling at the buttstock won't work--the rifle rides too low.)

ascorb · Dec 4, 2016

Rack&Roll said:
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Ill try that this week, I have to admit. I started messing with it a lot to loosen it around the chest area and it started feeling a bit better. Thanks for the info

Rack&Roll · Dec 4, 2016

Well, loosening the single-point sling just drops the rifle down, and you are back where you started--with the rifle muzzle banging into the ground when you kneel. Or slamming your jewels.

The comfort for the single-point comes from that RIGHT ANGLE drop of the sling coming down from your RIGHT shoulder. It minimizes neck bite and distributes the rifle weight uniformly across your clavicle, rather than having the sling cut across you at a sharp diagonal.

But to get the rifle to ride high, your sling loop has to be TIGHT where it runs across your left armpit.

When the rifle rides high, it swings less and minimizes that ball tap that makes people give up single-point slings.

Art3 · Dec 5, 2016

I seemed to have done too good of a job cleaning up for Thanksgiving, because now I can't find my sling.

Apparently, I was using it all wrong anyway...But I agree with Rack&Roll about skipping that "pigtail" and clipping the sling directly to your rifle. That's what worked for me...even though I use it too loose and on the wrong side... :shrug:

ascorb · Dec 5, 2016

Art3 said:
I seemed to have done too good of a job cleaning up for Thanksgiving, because now I can't find my sling. Apparently, I was using it all wrong anyway...But I agree with Rack&Roll about skipping that "pigtail" and clipping the sling directly to your rifle. That's what worked for me...even though I use it too loose and on the wrong side...

Thanks for the pics, I'll do that and post a pic to see if i did it right

alucard0822 · Dec 6, 2016

Rack&Roll said:
OP, before you give up on your single-point sling there is one more thing you can do to bring the rifle higher up on your chest.

In your picture in post #1, your rifle covers up your attachment scheme, but in the pic below, I believe this is what you are using--with me leaving the rifle out.

It looks like you are bringing your sling around front on your chest and clipping into a Magpul loop-and-clip segment, which drops your attachment point down almost FOUR inches. So from the point where your sling comes together on the front of your chest, the clip that grabs the ring on your rifle is located almost four inches BELOW your sling circle. That is what you see in the pic below.

(Note I am pulling down on the Magpul segment to simulate the weight of the rifle. See that the sling--with rifle weight on it-- assumes a right angle that drops the sling segment going over your shoulder STRAIGHT down. And to reiterate--you had your sling on the wrong shoulder in post #1. For right handed shooters, it should run under your LEFT armpit.)

This is the reason mixing and matching can be a bad idea. The MS1/2/3/4 slings have a short leader strap a couple inches long to keep the sling buckle clear of your grip, the sling should loop through the buckle on one side, and clip or QD into it at a right angle to form a single point. Using it as an "adapter" like shown with a single point HK style sling pretty much doubles the length of sling/leader ahead of the spot where the sling loop should be joined, and will leave the rifle hanging really low and loose. When properly adjusted, using an end plate adapter it should ride with the magwell around your beltline. The OP's placement isn't bad, just should be over the strong side shoulder, and maybe a little looser, hanging the rifle on your strong side is awkward and interferes with a pistol. I like mine just loose enough that when I drop the rifle it slides to my weak side, grip forward, and allows more room to work with another firearm, or to use my hands, slaps the side of my leg, not the nuts. Of course with any movement more than an upright walk, you need to put a hand on the rifle. IMO the general rule is 2pt=outdoors, 1pt=indoors.

bobbo · Jan 4, 2017

Any interested in diy slings Alice pack straps with quick release are great.

bobbo · Jan 7, 2017

Must be over 44cal to hunt with pistol in md

fidelity · Jan 7, 2017

bobbo said:
Must be over 44cal to hunt with pistol in md

No. Unless regs have changed for 2016/2017, for deer, must be over 700 ft lbs energy at the muzzle and have a barrel length of 6 inches or greater. Hot 357 Magnum loads can hit 800 ft lbs energy from a pistol barrel, and 41 Magnum can easily cross the minimal threshold.

No such minimums for varmints or small fur bearers in counties that permit handgun hunting.

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