rob-cubed
In need of moderation
As others have said, safes are deterrents unless you spring for major $$$. If your first concern is keeping your firearms out of reach of your kids, any locking metal box will do. A job safe can often be scored pretty inexpensively and will hold ammo and guns. If keeping it away from thieves, both hiding it AND locking it in a metal box that's difficult to move or lay flat or cut into is good. The thicker the gauge of steel, the better, but keep in mind hiding it or going for thicker walls is still just buying time. Don't even bother with fire protection, any fire big enough to damage your guns, will damage your guns. That's what insurance is for.
My advice is to spend as much as you can afford on a safe. Cheap safes are cheap and a good safe will be with you for a lifetime. I find it ironic that people have $10K+ in firearms in a $600 safe. Also buy one twice as big as you think you'll need. Trust me on that...
My advice is to spend as much as you can afford on a safe. Cheap safes are cheap and a good safe will be with you for a lifetime. I find it ironic that people have $10K+ in firearms in a $600 safe. Also buy one twice as big as you think you'll need. Trust me on that...
His helpers looked like escapee's from Gitmo that I wouldn't normally let near the house. I called both Champion AND his distributor.... she came out and changed the combination for me free of charge. 
