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  • Norton

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    To be fair, I construe the message not directed to those at the meeting "sitting quietly". The new board, it is up for speculation how they'd be ruling w/o "activists", so it is really a catch 22 anyway. I think the point is the anti's probably would never even be aware of the HPRB before it became well advertised.

    That whole "don't upset the antis" and "work quietly behind the scenes" along with the perception of the professional activists versus the unruly mobs is what got MD to where it is gun wise.

    This community has proven that model to be flawed time and time again.
     

    Gryphon

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    You know, if sitting quietly in an HPRB meeting observing the process of government is "intimidation", I plead guilty.

    Me too. I started attending under the prior Board appointed by Owe'Malley. What a complete joke. But at least Owe's convictions drove his decision making. He used his power to infringe and didn't lose any sleep over it. The Board is now functioning more or less as the Legislature intended. A Citizen controlled oversight Board to check the abuses the MSP Secretary Pollazzi who couldn't care less about your fundamental right to self-defense if he even understood what his oath of office meant in the first place.

    I don't recall ever seeing John Josselyn at a HPRB meeting. EVER. Yet he now complains mere attendance at a HPRB meeting - a right under the open meetings act - drove Madaleno to introduce further infringing legisltion? John Josselyn can go suck it! We don't need enemies like him from within. Especially, when our supposed friends find it so hard to find a spine.

    What a stoopid message. Sounds a lot like his editorial in the AGC Bulletin blaming MDS for his inability to be effective - right before he went down in flames during the AGC vote last year.
     

    Schipperke

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    That’s naive in The Facebook Era.

    Facebook did wonders Sept 16, didn't it..

    I don't see the note as blame, just an observation. An unintended consequence isn't exactly damning anyone is it? He's basically echoing Lone Ranger of days past. There are people that have owned guns for decades that never heard of the HPRB. If anything, it is a statement that appears better left unsaid.
     

    Stoveman

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    Facebook did wonders Sept 16, didn't it..

    I don't see the note as blame, just an observation. An unintended consequence isn't exactly damning anyone is it? He's basically echoing Lone Ranger of days past. There are people that have owned guns for decades that never heard of the HPRB. If anything, it is a statement that appears better left unsaid.



    I guess using the term "radicals" has a different meaning to me than it does you.
     

    swinokur

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    The problem is he said it publicly and my impression is he is blaming us for Madaleno's bill instead of the Senator and the MPGV and MDA.

    I'm not gonna be blamed publicly by anyone for standing up for my rights.

    God knows the people who claim they are haven't
     

    Schipperke

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    He said activists not radicals. A distinction without a difference


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    We'll just have to politely disagree there. The PP are not activists? The term radical itself (which was not scribed) is not anything abominable either. The founding fathers were probably the epitome of radicals.
     

    swinokur

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    Sitting quietly in a room is neither radical or activist.

    I'll wear the appropriate label when it fits my actual behavior.
     

    Stoveman

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    We'll just have to politely disagree there. The PP are not activists? The term radical itself (which was not scribed) is not anything abominable either. The founding fathers were probably the epitome of radicals.


    So you read that email and it didn't strike you wrong in the least?


    Go on the record, man, cast your lot with the old guard or the new wave.
     

    Rack&Roll

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    Remember the old Apple Macintosh commercial where all the minions sat in rows paying rapt attention to Dear Leader until an “activist” charges onto the scene with an awesome Hammer Throw at The Powers That Be?
     

    Sundazes

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    I received it this morning and thought WTF. From what I saw / listened to, these folks were sitting quietly in the meetings. What harassment on social media is John talking about?
     

    Schipperke

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    So you read that email and it didn't strike you wrong in the least?


    Go on the record, man, cast your lot with the old guard or the new wave.


    I think the thesis of how the anti's got stirred is not unfounded. I think the mistake (or you want to label it wrong) is does he believe that w/o the vocal "activism" the HPRB would have changed to what they are now. Why I earlier penned a "Catch 22". If the author of the note believes the HPRB would be making rulings it is now w/o the "intimidation" as he calls it, I think he is wrong. Better to get something for a bit, than nothing at all. If Madaleno prevails, I can see a lot of smiles at MSP come renewal time.
     

    mac1_131

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    I think there is room for both approaches in this fight (good cop/bad cop) but one approach should not ever throw the other under the bus. Smells of personal gain to me.

    Go ahead, dissolve the HPRB and see what happens. Removing due process from an infringed right is not helpful to their side. It's a dumb bill, especially in the shadows over what could turn out to MD being forced to issue permits down the road, maybe even sooner than later.

    We told the MGA a couple years ago this is your last chance to do this on your terms, and their arrogance prevailed as usual. To quote Frosh "I'll take my chances".
     

    swinokur

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    I think there is room for both approaches in this fight (good cop/bad cop) but one approach should not ever throw the other under the bus. Smells of personal gain to me.


    To me, that's exactly what has occurred. Anyone can call it whatever they choose.

    I call it for what I think it is.

    Feel free to form your own opinions about it and the author

    And I couldn't care less about stirring up the antis. we see what the previous tactics resulted in. Nada for us.
     

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