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seawolf823 · Apr 3, 2013

occbrian said:
They usually don't start on time. You should see a "LIVE" red button on the MD Leg home page when they convene.

Ok thanks

annihilation-time · Apr 3, 2013

The puppet show will start soon enough.

onthefarm · Apr 3, 2013

I thought of another amendment and sent via email to Del. Smigiel via email this morning.

The idea behind the amendment would be to make the state financially liable if the police were unable to respond to a call in time to prevent harm to a ciitizen. I understand there are court cases that already have said the government isn't liable if unable to respond with LEO, but I don't think it prohibits the state from assuming the responsibility.

A couple of good points could be made on this. Some of my suggestions are:

1. LEO are unable to be at all places. It is up to citizens to protect themselves.

2. People who will be unable to afford the additional costs and time for the training are most likley to inhabit high crime areas. This would make them whole, as the state is hindering their right to self protect. Maybe an additional suggestion would be to means test the ability to sue. Stupid, but it is just to illustrate a point.

3. It is the state that is liable, as the state is making the new laws, not local government.

4. A suggestion of 5 minutes response time could be made. When that is said to be unreasonable, a question could be made as to what the appropriate time could be. Did they study and understand the affect this would have on people in high crime areas? An example of home invader kicking in door, and 5 minutes later the police have made their reponse time, the citizen has no recourse to sue. Of course, the real point is that police respond after the crime, not during so it can be stopped.

Flipz · Apr 3, 2013

seawolf823 said:
Ok thanks

Can you post a link to the website streaming?

brighid · Apr 3, 2013

Flipz said:
Can you post a link to the website streaming?

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/frm1st.aspx?tab=home

Hit LIVE under House Session Status on the right side when it shows up.

lx1x · Apr 3, 2013

Flipz said:
Can you post a link to the website streaming?

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/frm1st.aspx?tab=home

just wait on the right side under house.. it should have a button that says live when they start

andimorony · Apr 3, 2013

BREAKING!!!!

Source: https://www.facebook.com/mikesmigiel

"It appears that HB-281 is on the agenda for this morning for 3rd reader. We will ask that as a courtesy the bill be held so that we can order additional amendments and prepare to argue it. It also appears they took such a beating over saying no to off duty police officers carrying their firearms onto school property that they may now be ready to accept this as a friendly amendment. Stay tuned."

occbrian · Apr 3, 2013

andimorony said:
Source: https://www.facebook.com/mikesmigiel

"It appears that HB-281 is on the agenda for this morning for 3rd reader. We will ask that as a courtesy the bill be held so that we can order additional amendments and prepare to argue it. It also appears they took such a beating over saying no to off duty police officers carrying their firearms onto school property that they may now be ready to accept this as a friendly amendment. Stay tuned."

AWESOME!

Make sure they know that I'm still running ads of their comments and votes RE off-duty police when 2014 rolls around. They aren't getting out of this one.

TxAggie · Apr 3, 2013

andimorony said:
Source: https://www.facebook.com/mikesmigiel

"It appears that HB-281 is on the agenda for this morning for 3rd reader. We will ask that as a courtesy the bill be held so that we can order additional amendments and prepare to argue it. It also appears they took such a beating over saying no to off duty police officers carrying their firearms onto school property that they may now be ready to accept this as a friendly amendment. Stay tuned."

Thanks for that tidbit, Andi!

dblas · Apr 3, 2013

Live stream is up: http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/frm1st.aspx?tab=home click on audio link for house on right side.

Straightshooter · Apr 3, 2013

I sure hope they hold it into the second session. I can't make the first session due to wife's appt at Hopkins. Maybe I can get my butt cheeks checked while I'm there. I think they're bruised from sitting in those coach class seats in the gallery last night.

MDvoice · Apr 3, 2013

Maybe they will think about some of the other points made.

MDvoice · Apr 3, 2013

The button is there the session is live...

occbrian · Apr 3, 2013

won't play for me... odd

MJD438 · Apr 3, 2013

occbrian said:
won't play for me... odd

I had to download VLC and open the link from IE to get it to work on my computers. While it claims to be an MP4 link, it is really a RAM link.

occbrian · Apr 3, 2013

MJD438 said:
I had to download VLC and open the link from IE to get it to work on my computers. While it claims to be an MP4 link, it is really a RAM link.

Ya... I have VLC and opened in VLC. Maybe I need to update VLC.

MJD438 · Apr 3, 2013

Nice speech by Smigiel!

pbharvey · Apr 3, 2013

"Needa Dad"? LOL

buzzsaw · Apr 3, 2013

sounds like quite a few signatures on file supporting sb281?

MJD438 · Apr 3, 2013

occbrian said:
Ya... I have VLC and opened in VLC. Maybe I need to update VLC.

Here is the link that I have working in VLC - rtsp://167.202.242.146/broadcast/HSE_Live.mp4

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