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  • grimnar15

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    Jul 21, 2019
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    Thanks for the heads up. I didn’t read the fine print so not sure about what’s in the package. But one could build a dandy AR for those prices.

    Agreed, some folks don't want to build their own... I did not either until I realized building AR is like playing with legos...
     

    rockstarr

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    Feb 25, 2013
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    Agreed, some folks don't want to build their own... I did not either until I realized building AR is like playing with legos...

    Lol gets pricey quick , especially when you like certain companies and their parts. Then again can also be very cheap if wanted :).

    What’s no question, is that it’s a ton of fun to do.
     

    teratos

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    Lol gets pricey quick , especially when you like certain companies and their parts. Then again can also be very cheap if wanted :).

    What’s no question, is that it’s a ton of fun to do.

    I love it because I get exactly what I want.
     

    Mule

    Just Mule
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    Sep 14, 2013
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    Harry, at Gun Connection, turned me on to American Defense Manufacturing, for their optics mounts.

    When I was preparing for my first build, ADM offered a gray cerakoted lower/upper/rail combo with full ambidextrous controls, that I ended up selecting as my chassis. It looks great, shoots great, and I love it.

    I'm very interested in their UIC 9 PCC, as it offers both LRBHO and ambi controls. The main thing that's been holding me back is the cost. ($2K)

    https://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/product-p/ad-uic-9-carbine.htm
     

    grimnar15

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    Jul 21, 2019
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    I love it because I get exactly what I want.

    AMEN!!!! Here is my latest build (please don't let my use of a brace trigger anyone):

    1. Centurion Arms matched receiver set. $180 after LEO/MIL discount ($210 after transfer and shipping) (included FWD assist and ejection port cover)
    2. Colt FBI HRT Barrel $250 (shaved down A2 Sight post / gas block myself)
    3. Giessele REBCG $200 after LEO/MIL discount
    4. SOLG Blaster Guts with Fighting Trigger $80 on sale at PA
    5. ADM 10.75" Rail $140
    6. FWD Control Design Winter trigger guard $15
    7. SBA4 Brace $65 (used but like new)
    8. FWD Control Design KeyMO Muzzle Brake $85 after LEO/MIL Discount
    9. V Seven 2055 A5 H2 (5.30z) Premium Receiver Extension kit $143 was on sale at AR15SAFESPACE (great f-ing deal - should have bought two)
    10. Anti walk pins $20
    11. LMT fixed front sight $50 Ebay (used like new)
    12. Matech Picatinny Rear Ranging Aperture Flip Up Sight $65 Ebay (used like new)
    13. Hogue grip $20
    14. Shim kit $15
    15. PWS Castle Nut $23
    16. Gas buster charging handle $75 on sale

    Total: $1591 (yes gets expensive fast - but so much fun)
     

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    rockstarr

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    Feb 25, 2013
    4,592
    The Bolshevik Lands
    AMEN!!!! Here is my latest build (please don't let my use of a brace trigger anyone):

    1. Centurion Arms matched receiver set. $180 after LEO/MIL discount ($210 after transfer and shipping) (included FWD assist and ejection port cover)
    2. Colt FBI HRT Barrel $250 (shaved down A2 Sight post / gas block myself)
    3. Giessele REBCG $200 after LEO/MIL discount
    4. SOLG Blaster Guts with Fighting Trigger $80 on sale at PA
    5. ADM 10.75" Rail $140
    6. FWD Control Design Winter trigger guard $15
    7. SBA4 Brace $65 (used but like new)
    8. FWD Control Design KeyMO Muzzle Brake $85 after LEO/MIL Discount
    9. V Seven 2055 A5 H2 (5.30z) Premium Receiver Extension kit $143 was on sale at AR15SAFESPACE (great f-ing deal - should have bought two)
    10. Anti walk pins $20
    11. LMT fixed front sight $50 Ebay (used like new)
    12. Matech Picatinny Rear Ranging Aperture Flip Up Sight $65 Ebay (used like new)
    13. Hogue grip $20
    14. Shim kit $15
    15. PWS Castle Nut $23
    16. Gas buster charging handle $75 on sale

    Total: $1591 (yes gets expensive fast - but so much fun)

    Looks awesome dude. Like it a lot.

    That’s exactly what I was trying to say in my previous post, wasn’t implying anything smart ass. I tend to have expensive taste myself lol.

    Just recently started building my first “build”. So much fun, and as doc said, you get exactly what you want. In my case I end up spending close to what a factory rifle would cost due to previously mentioned taste in parts :)
     

    rockstarr

    Major Deplorable
    Feb 25, 2013
    4,592
    The Bolshevik Lands
    AMEN!!!! Here is my latest build (please don't let my use of a brace trigger anyone):

    1. Centurion Arms matched receiver set. $180 after LEO/MIL discount ($210 after transfer and shipping) (included FWD assist and ejection port cover)
    2. Colt FBI HRT Barrel $250 (shaved down A2 Sight post / gas block myself)
    3. Giessele REBCG $200 after LEO/MIL discount
    4. SOLG Blaster Guts with Fighting Trigger $80 on sale at PA
    5. ADM 10.75" Rail $140
    6. FWD Control Design Winter trigger guard $15
    7. SBA4 Brace $65 (used but like new)
    8. FWD Control Design KeyMO Muzzle Brake $85 after LEO/MIL Discount
    9. V Seven 2055 A5 H2 (5.30z) Premium Receiver Extension kit $143 was on sale at AR15SAFESPACE (great f-ing deal - should have bought two)
    10. Anti walk pins $20
    11. LMT fixed front sight $50 Ebay (used like new)
    12. Matech Picatinny Rear Ranging Aperture Flip Up Sight $65 Ebay (used like new)
    13. Hogue grip $20
    14. Shim kit $15
    15. PWS Castle Nut $23
    16. Gas buster charging handle $75 on sale

    Total: $1591 (yes gets expensive fast - but so much fun)

    Wow the discount from geissele is sweet. I think they retail for 295. What are your thoughts so far on that bcg? I’ve been considering one myself.

    What’s “enhanced” from say a standard colt bcg?
     

    grimnar15

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    Jul 21, 2019
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    Wow the discount from geissele is sweet. I think they retail for 295. What are your thoughts so far on that bcg? I’ve been considering one myself.

    What’s “enhanced” from say a standard colt bcg?

    There is a lot that went into making the REHBCG, especially their material and coating. Ever since watching Chads videos I’ve become a gas key staking snob. The BCG is awesome but I felt they could have done a better job staking the gas key. I bet you that my Colt, SOLGW and this one will be around a lot longer than I will. I am certain I will fail before these BCGs will.

    From their site:

    The Reliability Enhanced Bolt Carrier Group (REBCG) is a 5.56mm full-mass, full-auto rated M16/M4 bolt carrier group manufactured in Geissele’s state-of-the-art manufacturing facility in North Wales, PA. The carrier is machined from mil-spec 8620 steel, and features a properly torqued and staked, chrome lined, gas key. The cam pin is machined from an advanced medical steel typically used to produce medical instrumentation known as H13, it is then coated with Nanoweapon (Chrome-Nitride) for maximum corrosion and wear resistance. The extended upper rails on the carrier also provide much greater stability and dramatically increase feeding reliability. The Carrier is coated with Nanoweapon for maxium corrosion and wear resistance.

    The Geissele Stressproof Bolt is made from Carpenter 158, however this is not your typical material spec’d by the US Government. Since Geissele wanted to take it to the next level, our engineers worked directly with the Carpenter Steel metallurgists in Reading PA, to produce a special heat of material known as Carpenter 158+. This material is cleaner with less impurities, ultimately making it stronger and more consistent. We did not stop there, we decided to forge the bolt. Using the same process used to produce upper and lower receivers, a forged bolt manipulates the grain structure of the metal and yields a bolt capable of 5 times the life of a mil-spec bolt. Each bolt is then rigorously inspected, high pressure tested, mag particle inspected and coated with Nanoweapon for maximum corrosion and wear resistance.

    Nanoweapon is a family of coatings similar to DSL (Durable Solid Lubricant) that was developed by Picatinny Arsenal (US ARMY ARDEC), and is only available exclusively from Geissele Automatics. Our engineers worked for over 3 years with the research and development company that worked with Picatinny to develop the coating in order to fine tune it into what it is today, making it the pinnacle of coatings for firearm components. No other coating on the market can provide the same level of corrosion, wear, and abrasion resistance as Nanoweapon. The coating is applied at low temperatures so it does not affect the metallurgy of the part, and has a surface hardness equivalent of 82HRC. At that hardness, it is harder than sand, easily rejecting carbon and making cleaning a breeze, on top of allowing the firearm to operate normally with less lubrication.
     

    omegared24

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    Dec 23, 2011
    4,747
    Ijamsville, MD
    There is a lot that went into making the REHBCG, especially their material and coating. Ever since watching Chads videos I’ve become a gas key staking snob. The BCG is awesome but I felt they could have done a better job staking the gas key. I bet you that my Colt, SOLGW and this one will be around a lot longer than I will. I am certain I will fail before these BCGs will.

    From their site:

    The Reliability Enhanced Bolt Carrier Group (REBCG) is a 5.56mm full-mass, full-auto rated M16/M4 bolt carrier group manufactured in Geissele’s state-of-the-art manufacturing facility in North Wales, PA. The carrier is machined from mil-spec 8620 steel, and features a properly torqued and staked, chrome lined, gas key. The cam pin is machined from an advanced medical steel typically used to produce medical instrumentation known as H13, it is then coated with Nanoweapon (Chrome-Nitride) for maximum corrosion and wear resistance. The extended upper rails on the carrier also provide much greater stability and dramatically increase feeding reliability. The Carrier is coated with Nanoweapon for maxium corrosion and wear resistance.

    The Geissele Stressproof Bolt is made from Carpenter 158, however this is not your typical material spec’d by the US Government. Since Geissele wanted to take it to the next level, our engineers worked directly with the Carpenter Steel metallurgists in Reading PA, to produce a special heat of material known as Carpenter 158+. This material is cleaner with less impurities, ultimately making it stronger and more consistent. We did not stop there, we decided to forge the bolt. Using the same process used to produce upper and lower receivers, a forged bolt manipulates the grain structure of the metal and yields a bolt capable of 5 times the life of a mil-spec bolt. Each bolt is then rigorously inspected, high pressure tested, mag particle inspected and coated with Nanoweapon for maximum corrosion and wear resistance.

    Nanoweapon is a family of coatings similar to DSL (Durable Solid Lubricant) that was developed by Picatinny Arsenal (US ARMY ARDEC), and is only available exclusively from Geissele Automatics. Our engineers worked for over 3 years with the research and development company that worked with Picatinny to develop the coating in order to fine tune it into what it is today, making it the pinnacle of coatings for firearm components. No other coating on the market can provide the same level of corrosion, wear, and abrasion resistance as Nanoweapon. The coating is applied at low temperatures so it does not affect the metallurgy of the part, and has a surface hardness equivalent of 82HRC. At that hardness, it is harder than sand, easily rejecting carbon and making cleaning a breeze, on top of allowing the firearm to operate normally with less lubrication.

    That last part is a tough sell. It sounds alot like some of these other companies that talk about magical coatings.

    There's a reason why the better brands stick with phosphate.
     

    grimnar15

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    Jul 21, 2019
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    That last part is a tough sell. It sounds alot like some of these other companies that talk about magical coatings.

    There's a reason why the better brands stick with phosphate.

    I bet you’re right, the price was hard to say no to.
     

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