PSA Complete Lowers

squaregrouper said:

I just had a FTF with PSA in Harrisburg. They confirmed that if a dealer calls and orders the complete lower,they will ship them.
They are concerned over potential liabilities of shipping a rifle lower (transferred as such) and an illegal upper being installed. This is why stripped lowers, complete firearms and pistol lowers are OK- there isn't much legal intrepation problems from the end user.
Not great, but at least they're not completely snubbing us.

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Tracker said:

I tried to order a complete PA-10 (AR10) rifle from them in Dec 2017 and they would not sell it to me. They said I could buy a stripped lower and a complete upper with an LPK and stock parts kit and that would be ok. I didn't really feel like doing another AR build but it did save me $70.

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dreadpirate said:

PSA says they will only ship stripped lowers to Maryland; it's in their terms of service / FAQ / CYA / disclaimer / whatever.

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squaregrouper said:

OP Here...
They will accept phone orders from MD FFL's for anything they carry. The FFL will become a PSA dealer (JLowes was one) and the FFL places the order. We then buy from the FFL- not directly from PSA and the FFL as the paperwork only FFL.

The important thing to understand- as discussed/debated in other threads- is that PSA limits what Maryland residents can order directly from them. A MD FFL can buy 30rd mags, complete lowers, banned rifles, etc. PSA's stance is that if they had no involvement with the end user, the liability is fully on the FFL, not them.
If you want something PSA won't ship, have your FFL call in the order (they get a discount) and order it themselves. You are then buying from the FFL- not using them as a transfer FFL for paperwork.
This is their lawyer's method to shield PSA from MD lawsuits rather than keeping up on our ever changing laws.

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jamesenoch said:

Example : I went through John Lowe and purchased a PSA AR-10 complete lower for $159 in December, and purchased a AR-10 complete upper directly from PSA in January for $417 (includes S/H). A total for $576 for an AR-10. Not too bad.

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dreadpirate said:

PSA says they will only ship stripped lowers to Maryland; it's in their terms of service / FAQ / CYA / disclaimer / whatever.

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cap6888 said:

So is there any confirmation one way or the other on PSA shipping complete uppers or pistol kits to Maryland without going through a FFL? I figure AR pistols are legal, so a pistol kit should be ok, right?

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