clint west
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Maybe if they didn't squander our dues on loading us up with junk mail they might have enough money to get by. They could probably self insure for the cost of their junk mail budget
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I think a lot of people are really under-(or mal)-informed about the difference between the "normal" NRA and the NRA-ILA and NRA-PVF. These are very different animals, with (legally required) different funding mechanisms/channels. You want money to go into litigation? Send it to the ILA. Yes, the larger organization needs what we can provide in order to do the more general PR-ish stuff that has to be done. But the parent organization doesn't fund the lawyers in the trenches. It doesn't work like that. And they don't spend money on political ads, either (that's the PVF).
A lot of the complaints about all of this seem to be associated with a lot of folks (not picking on anybody in particular, promise!) not being clear on how it's all structured. Federal law has a lot to say about the "we need help here in Maryland!" stuff, and how a donated dollar can actually GET to us to help.
Nanook
F-notso-NG-anymore
Yeah, I know the clowns on the Hill were pushing legislation and the confiscation directive stopped that (for now). I'm a life member and support what the original organization does. I can appreciate what the ILA arm does...and send chunks of change to the JPFO, 2AF, MSI, etc when able.
Thinking back now about the grammar in this post "NRA warns is may "Shut Down", I vote for Fake News.
I got the letter and this is how I took it. as another scare tactic to try to solicit more funds based on banks being pressured.
GOA does the same thing, trying to scare money out of people all while bashing the NRA
DanGuy48
Ultimate Member
Rattlesnake46319
Curmidget
Perhaps they're building a war chest to unseat another pro-2A delegate.
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=4352079
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=4352079
Anotherpyr
Ultimate Member
I recognize the difference, but I’m not working 3 jobs to support them.
When I put money into the ILA and PVF, it's because I consider it supporting me. But one can only put money where one can. I don't send any more to the general association in the way of dues since I'm a lifer.
MrDK
Member
sounds like fake news
Yesterday I read most of an instagram post by militaryarms LLC (255K followers) and NRA was getting very negative feedback from viewers!! Most were saying the NRA caused a lot of the Federal laws on the books in attempts to make money for itself and executives. "Sign this law so we can make money fighting it". It sounds like there is more to this .... staying tuned. This is not MAC (militaryarmschannel). It was not completely against NRA as we need them for their "Certified" and accredited programs that are accepted nationwide. It was enlightening.
"The NRA is imploding. The truth of their financial corruption, the selling of our rights out in exchange for money and power, the internal profiteering of board members and the insane salaries paid to executives, spokesmen and the big black hole of members dues called Ackerman McQueen, is all coming to light. Of the hundreds of millions of dollars the NRA rakes in every year, they only allocate less than 3% to fighting for our rights, if you can call them selling us out at every turn “fighting for our rights”. The rest goes to make a handful of people filthy rich. Hundreds of millions are squandered while the NRA backs bump stock bans and red flag laws. Their house of cards is crumbling to the point the NRA is now suing their partner in crime, Ackerman McQueen, for $40m... the same amount of money the NRA lost last year through profiteering and gross mismanagement of members money. I won’t link to the full article because they dox a friend of mine in it. Some people say we need the NRA. No we don’t, we need people to support the @gunownersofamerica. @iraqveteran8888_official @drewhopkins @9mmsmg @22plinkster"
"The NRA is imploding. The truth of their financial corruption, the selling of our rights out in exchange for money and power, the internal profiteering of board members and the insane salaries paid to executives, spokesmen and the big black hole of members dues called Ackerman McQueen, is all coming to light. Of the hundreds of millions of dollars the NRA rakes in every year, they only allocate less than 3% to fighting for our rights, if you can call them selling us out at every turn “fighting for our rights”. The rest goes to make a handful of people filthy rich. Hundreds of millions are squandered while the NRA backs bump stock bans and red flag laws. Their house of cards is crumbling to the point the NRA is now suing their partner in crime, Ackerman McQueen, for $40m... the same amount of money the NRA lost last year through profiteering and gross mismanagement of members money. I won’t link to the full article because they dox a friend of mine in it. Some people say we need the NRA. No we don’t, we need people to support the @gunownersofamerica. @iraqveteran8888_official @drewhopkins @9mmsmg @22plinkster"
danb
dont be a dumbass
well, they did blow a **** ton of money on NRA tv and angry Dana videos, which had very poor viewership.
Wouldn't you consider the governor of the state where most of the required financial services companies live trying to choke off a non-profit's ability to buy insurance and do basic banking ... to be truly unusual circumstances? I work with multiple (financially healthy) non-profits. They would all be a very short trip to bankruptcy if they couldn't publish their print and online material or handle their members' dues and other basic functions.
danb
dont be a dumbass
Huh. NY has been anti gun since 1900s and is trying to use their power to censor the NRA. Who saw that one coming.
The NRA is chartered as a nonprofit in NY and being investigated there. This fallout with their ad firm (of decades) that created NRATV and won't provide them with an accounting of where the money went (so the NRA can ensure that they're in compliance with nonprofit laws) is a big thing. The ad firm used to be the tail that wagged the dog (except for the NRA-ILA which is independent).
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https://www.ammoland.com/2019/04/nr...GaEQjAhzB7LjtSZjuVbcvfHHwRK_Imc#axzz5lZKHHSmJ
This article is enlightening. Now we all have opinions, but if any or even most of this stuff is true. All of my future 2A donations will go to SAF.
This article is enlightening. Now we all have opinions, but if any or even most of this stuff is true. All of my future 2A donations will go to SAF.
PowPow
Where's the beef?
That Ammoland writeup is pretty indicting. I believe it to be accurate. I never liked Wayne LaPierre - now it's clear why. My spidey sense must have been picking up on some of his wrongdoing. I hope the NRA is able to recover and restore itself. I will not abandon them, but my eyes will be focused on them a bit more now. I do support SAF and GOA as well, but I will not outright cut off the NRA if I see signs of repair.
I think monies sent to the NRA-ILA don't go to the ad company budget.
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