50 Round Boxes of HST Now LEO Only

zoostation · Oct 25, 2018

pbharvey said:
I think you’re right. I wonder if there’s confusion between only being able to order 20 round boxes and only being being able to order 20 boxes?
Regardless it does seem like a supply issue.

Yeah I used to see this kind of thing more than once both when I was in law enforcement and buying for an agency and later when I was working as a rep for an ammo company among others. Ammo is a very, very tricky business with low profit margins and difficult as far as getting production and material intake right for supply and demand. Just guessing but the massive, relatively sudden shift away from .40 to 9mm by law enforcement nationwide may have them scrambling to catch up.

FrankOceanXray · Oct 25, 2018

zoostation said:
Just guessing, but it sounds to me like they might be having trouble trying to meet demand on LE contracts they are committed to, not anything nefarious. This happens with ammo companies more often than you might think.

This has become the hit round now. They are doing customer service not citizenry control.

They go where the $ is. Pretty good idea for a business operational plan.

IronEye · Oct 25, 2018

I got 300 rounds of HST in 50 round packaging last week. But i did have to look around and they cost more than the best prices that were "LE Only".

Baccusboy · Oct 29, 2018

Lots of other good choices:

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/#9mm

woodline · Nov 4, 2018

Baccusboy said:
Lots of other good choices:

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/#9mm

Offhand, does anyone know of the next lowest cost round that's well reviewed for self defense? My CPR for federal HST 147gr has been 37-40 cents per round. Seems like all the other well reviewed defensive ammo is significantly more than that.

todbiker · Nov 4, 2018

Lucca1 said:
Streichers has the 147 grain, standard pressure for $21.99 with no Leo restrictions listed.

https://www.streichers.com/federal-cartridge-9mm-hst-hp-duty-ammunition

http://nimb.ws/zQpH3B

Looks like they changed their policy, look at last line in bold in the screenshot?

todbiker · Nov 4, 2018

fbi_surveillance_van said:
Offhand, does anyone know of the next lowest cost round that's well reviewed for self defense? My CPR for federal HST 147gr has been 37-40 cents per round. Seems like all the other well reviewed defensive ammo is significantly more than that.

Gun tests just came out with a comparison and rated Fiocchi 147 grain JHP 9APDHP a best buy $20.75/50 at Luckygunner
I have no personal experience with it

woodline · Nov 4, 2018

todbiker said:
Gun tests just came out with a comparison and rated Fiocchi 147 grain JHP 9APDHP a best buy $20.75/50 at Luckygunner
I have no personal experience with it

Cool, I might try some of that out someday. Mass Ammo has 1000 rounds of 147gr standard pressure HST available for $369 shipped, so I just ordered that. Splitting it with a buddy. I figure 500 rounds will give me plenty of time to find new affordable defense ammo.

Lucca1 · Nov 4, 2018

todbiker said:
http://nimb.ws/zQpH3B

Looks like they changed their policy, look at last line in bold in the screenshot?

They must have changed their policy late last week. My delivery of 147's and backordered 124's arrived Tuesday.

jrumann59 · Nov 7, 2018

The last batch of hsts i bought a few years ago all the boxes said leo or military only.

ToolAA · Jun 14, 2019

. Damn wrong thread post..doh

Ammo Jon · Jun 14, 2019

If I get more I’ll post it here

Speed3 · Jun 14, 2019

Ammo Jon said:
If I get more I’ll post it here

If you get 147gr, PM me please

Baccusboy · Jun 17, 2019

Winchester Ranger T in 147 grain is insane. Over 16in penetration, and a nasty expansion average well over .70, with one bullet above .80.

TheBert · Jun 17, 2019

todbiker said:
Gun tests just came out with a comparison and rated Fiocchi 147 grain JHP 9APDHP a best buy $20.75/50 at Luckygunner
I have no personal experience with it

My 1911 in .45 ACP will eat anything including the Fiocchi. However, my 9's and 4'tays are finicky when it comes to Fiocchi, sometimes they like it and other times they just puke all over themselves with FTFs and some FTEs.

Ammo Jon · Jun 22, 2019

Going to be getting ahold of some more Fed 9mm Hst1, See my IP section for more info.

Alan3413 · Jun 22, 2019

Speed3 said:
If you get 147gr, PM me please

This. Would be interested as well.

kstone803 · Jun 23, 2019

Baccusboy said:
Winchester Ranger T in 147 grain is insane. Over 16in penetration, and a nasty expansion average well over .70, with one bullet above .80.

I've been trying to get ahold of some 50 round boxes of this for months. No luck yet

BeoBill · Jun 23, 2019

pbharvey said:
What's the point of this?
A cop isn't buying his own ammo for his service weapon so he's buying HST to keep him and his family safe, just like I am.

I think its a marketing scheme. Tell me I can't have it and the only thing I'm thinking about is how I can get it.

Yeah, when they see their sales drop off the edge of the earth they may change their mind about their cute marketing gimmick.

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