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Old August 15th, 2019, 12:21 PM #21
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Not any more. The new language is while employed as a contractor or DOD. Paraphrasing a little bit but it is not tied to a specific employer and allows one to change employment without having to get a permit modification.
Ok awesome! Good to know. Thanks y'all!
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Old October 8th, 2019, 08:01 PM #22
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Updated SOP

For your reading enjoyment. Helped my back in 2017 before the Federal Employee. I used the Assumed Risk position as a Active Military member, OPM hack, Isis threat etc...

This addition will make it easier for renewal.
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Old October 9th, 2019, 07:44 AM #23
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Correct me If I am wrong but wasnt their a case a few yeas ago where a MD SPO sued MSP in court and won for a ccw to carry off duty? MSP said he was not a police officer and the court said he was and could carry off duty and ordered MSP to ISSUE a CCW and yet the new SOP put out by MSP goes against that court ruling as well.

#12 Special Police Officer. Between residence and (or) armed,(name of agency job assignment or property)only,and while actively engaged as a Special Police Officer for same (ON DUTY IN MD ONLY) (Not VALID where firearms are prohibited by law.)

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The above language is the default for SPO ( or Armed Security, or Private Investigator [ which is different from Private Detective in Md] ). For an unrestricted , they would have to show specific documented threats , similar to anyone else .

Perhaps you were thinking of Virginia's Special Conservator of the Peace status . That has been recognized as LEO , and subject to LEOSA . Likewise for Pennsylvania Constables .
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I just submitted letter from my security manager with all pertinent info included. Don't know if it's good enough yet.

TOP SECRET eligibility determination by DOD CAF on 09/09/2013
PPR investigation by OPM closed on 10/10/2013
CAGE: ABCDEFG
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I just submitted letter from my security manager with all pertinent info included. Don't know if it's good enough yet.

TOP SECRET eligibility determination by DOD CAF on 09/09/2013
PPR investigation by OPM closed on 10/10/2013
CAGE: ABCDEFG
I could see MSP being passive-aggressive and not accepting eligibility, instead requiring documentary evidence of actual indoc.
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Old October 13th, 2019, 12:03 AM #27
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I just submitted letter from my security manager with all pertinent info included. Don't know if it's good enough yet.

TOP SECRET eligibility determination by DOD CAF on 09/09/2013
PPR investigation by OPM closed on 10/10/2013
CAGE: ABCDEFG
It will need to state that it’s still active and you have reoccurring access to classified materials.
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I am not trying to be stupid, and I am sure that this has probably been covered before, but how is daily access to classified materials G&S? I could see if someone was involved in the transport of them.
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I am not trying to be stupid, and I am sure that this has probably been covered before, but how is daily access to classified materials G&S? I could see if someone was involved in the transport of them.
Hummm...when I had access (I'm retired) nobody ever pulled out a black pen looking thing and cleared my memory before I left work every day (at least I don't think so, since I remembered seeing it before when I went back the next day).

I have a lifetime obligation to protect the information I had access to for over 35 years.



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Hummm...when I had access (I'm retired) nobody ever pulled out a black pen looking thing and cleared my memory before I left work every day (at least I don't think so, since I remembered seeing it before when I went back the next day).

I have a lifetime obligation to protect the information I had access to for over 35 years.



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I understand that and if I were to ever decide to go CCW, I would probably go that route, but I am trying to understand what the perceived threat is. Are people concerned that they will be approached by someone demanding classified information and threatened with physical harm if they do not comply?
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