I shot one of these today and I was not disappointed. Put that in perspective though, it was only one full magazine so it is hard to be disappointed when it goes bang every time you pull the trigger. Felt balanced, trigger was not bad, and magazines were easy to insert. Seems more like a range toy and/or a possible hog hunter than it does a combat rifle Does anyone here have any experience with this, good, bad? Reviews are mixed, people either hate or love them...
My M10X Experience
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I'm thinking about selling mine. PM me if interested.
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I've got several hundred rounds through mine and I think it's as good or better than any non-AK rifle in that caliber. I'm definitely a fan.
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I had been thinking about one of these a while back, but got a Vepr. Here is a big thread about them;
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=214536
With some of the reports of issues, and the one year warranty, I didn't have enough confidence to buy one. If you say it has issues, and they claim it is within spec, they charge you $95 before you get your rifle back. In fairness, I would assume this is to prevent some abuses of the warranty, but given some threads I have read, I think M&M would be better off kissing a customer's ass. Maybe extend the warranty. In the end, despite lack of warranty for the Veprs, their reputation, and my previous experience gave me confidence in them. I am not meaning to kill your enthusiasm for the M10X, but give you some things to think about. It is a cool looking rifle, with decent accuracy potential, but if reliability and durability are big concerns of yours, weigh your options carefully. Best of luck in whatever you get. There is a VZ58 here in the classifieds I would buy in a heartbeat if I had the cash.
https://www.mm-industries.com/support/
https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=214536
With some of the reports of issues, and the one year warranty, I didn't have enough confidence to buy one. If you say it has issues, and they claim it is within spec, they charge you $95 before you get your rifle back. In fairness, I would assume this is to prevent some abuses of the warranty, but given some threads I have read, I think M&M would be better off kissing a customer's ass. Maybe extend the warranty. In the end, despite lack of warranty for the Veprs, their reputation, and my previous experience gave me confidence in them. I am not meaning to kill your enthusiasm for the M10X, but give you some things to think about. It is a cool looking rifle, with decent accuracy potential, but if reliability and durability are big concerns of yours, weigh your options carefully. Best of luck in whatever you get. There is a VZ58 here in the classifieds I would buy in a heartbeat if I had the cash.
https://www.mm-industries.com/support/
The problem people are having with the M10X's isn't so much that they're non-functional out of the box, it's that they start failing after about 500 rounds. I really want to like them, but that's just not acceptable reliability for classes or matches. Bit of a shame that M+M stopped with the Romanian AK imports, they were some of the best ones ever done IMHO.
I have been looking at this rifle for a couple years and even had multiple email and phone conversations with them. Nice enough folks. I am surprised these issues from the beginning have not been resolved. I was trying to compare with the CMMG Mutant. Mutant looks tocbe a purpose built AR in 7.62x39 not an AK offshoot
The other rifle under consideration that takes ak47 mags is the RRA LAR-47.
Ah
Thanks! May just try to bag a VZ2008. Unless I cant. Get it? Cant issues with them sometimes. Lol.
Thanks! May just try to bag a VZ2008. Unless I cant. Get it? Cant issues with them sometimes. Lol.
LOL —- I have a couple of VZ58’s, they are gorgeous great shooting rifles.
Good to know
I remember the run on them a couple years ago. Did not pull trigger. HogSniper had a lot
I remember the run on them a couple years ago. Did not pull trigger. HogSniper had a lot
VZ58 or VZ2008?
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Some VZ58 but mostly the cheaper VZ2008 with the whole kit. I was looking at the 2008 but the 58 looked better but was a helluvalot more of course
Some VZ58 but mostly the cheaper VZ2008 with the whole kit. I was looking at the 2008 but the 58 looked better but was a helluvalot more of course
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I wanted a Mutant really, really bad a while back. The cost and weight made me hold off, and I got an AR15 in 7.62x39 instead. Once you tweak it with an enhanced firing pin, decent mags, it's still cheaper, and more versatile than the mutant. Some have the lifetime warranty as well. The bolt lugs on the bolt face have a thinner wall, but if you get one with a lifetime warranty it should cover it, or buy a Young Manufacturing bolt. I don't anticipate using as a combat rifle, mainly a range shooter, as I have other guns for home defense. But with a 7.62x39 AR15, 2 pins and you're shooting another caliber in minutes.
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I got a VZ2008, which is nice for its price point, but if I get the chance to move up to a VZ58, I am taking it. I tweaked the trigger spring, had a tab added, and changed up the furniture and it is a very enjoyable rifle to shoot.
Exactly
Price point for the 2008 was key for me when ai was looking. Also, thanks for the AR versus mutant post. Mags are key I guess for feeding issues
Price point for the 2008 was key for me when ai was looking. Also, thanks for the AR versus mutant post. Mags are key I guess for feeding issues
This is a very good bolt for a 7.62X39 AR15 build. If you are building, then you you can buy the RRA LAR47 upper and lower directly from RRA and it takes standard AK magazines.
https://thebuffalo.us/shop/7-62x39-chrome-bolt-head/
Also, if you are interested in a VZ58, then let me know.
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We were not happy with the first run of the M10X but after they worked out the bugs the rifles have been great . We really do not have any problems or complaints from shooters on the current production models .
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Yeah, that's the bolt and cam pin I got. My experience with mags has been, 30rd ASC mags, not great, their 20rd mags have been ok. The Cproducts 10rd mags sucked for me. They even replaced them, and I still had issues. The 30rd mags seem to work ok, and have a different follower, but you have to navigate the while getting them from another state problem.
My reason with going with a standard AR15 receiver and just using the 7.62x39 AR mags was flexibility. If there was a problem with the Mutant, or the PSA KS47 for example, and the issue was in the upper, I could send it back, but it would likely not be shootable. They have many proprietary parts. The standard AR type, I could just send the upper back for service, buy parts, whatever, and pop my 5.56 or 6.5G upper on it. Just my reason for taking that path, it was more practical and cost effective for me.
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