United Gun Shop Burglary

F5guy · Mar 10, 2017

Why a gun stores alarm doesn't immediately dispatch police is beyond me. Totally planned job they've been in there before. Will see where guns turn up. Most likely gang related imo.

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K31 · Mar 10, 2017

F5guy said:
Why a gun stores alarm doesn't immediately dispatch police is beyond me. Totally planned job they've been in there before. Will see where guns turn up. Most likely gang related imo.

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In and gone in 80s. I guess if the station was across the street, they maybe could have seen them leaving...

Schipperke · Mar 10, 2017

Zzzzz_man said:
If they had kept their mouths shut, it would've been a lot more difficult to tell but the accent and cadence is almost unmistakable.

I was sold as soon as the Glocks were #1 priority. "Glock" is a staple in a plethora of rap tunz.

swinokur · Mar 10, 2017

The actual shop is not visible from the street.
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Mike3888 · Mar 10, 2017

Livingthedream said:
Those were not amatures

One drops bag has to go get it, then his buddy comes back to his side and bust bottom glass. Rookies or pros some of those guns will turn up. Sure hope perps get hammered.

Fitztar · Mar 10, 2017

They knew the store, knew how long they had to get in and out. I hope they catch the guys and recover the guns.

Greg621 · Mar 10, 2017

Johnthetoolguy said:
I thought most Maryland gun shops put their inventory in safes when they closed. I guess I was wrong.

That's exactly what I said to my co worker when he first showed me the video

MosheDayan · Mar 10, 2017

swinokur said:
The actual shop is not visible from the street.
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Doesn't change your larger point about street visibility, but the circle is in slightly the wrong place. United is the closest brick front to the 220v appliance store (white building).

It does surprise me a bit that the place wasn't more secure, given that Gilbert stores all their rental inventory in walk-in safes.

travistheone · Mar 10, 2017

yea typically guns are in a safe. at least the handguns that can be easily stowed.

hate to say it- but it seems reckless.

MosheDayan · Mar 10, 2017

F5guy said:
Why a gun stores alarm doesn't immediately dispatch police is beyond me. Totally planned job they've been in there before. Will see where guns turn up. Most likely gang related imo.

Clearly they were looking for quick and dirty street resale. If they were going to maximize value, they would have gone to the consignment side, as that has many of the highest dollar value guns in the shop. But I'm guessing a G19 is easier to unload quickly than a .45ACP Liberator or a Nighthawk 1911.

Hopefully, if they had scoped the shop before, they'll still have that security footage and can match to the getaway car from the outside cam.

swinokur · Mar 10, 2017

MosheDayan said:
Doesn't change your larger point about street visibility, but the circle is in slightly the wrong place. United is the closest brick front to the 220v appliance store (white building).

I could not circle the actual location due to the large truck parked in front of the actual location in the pic I posted
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2ndltsdad · Mar 10, 2017

a lot of lights left on inside seems to have made it easy for them

swinokur · Mar 10, 2017

and leaving them off makes seeing thieves inside impossible.

I have no idea what security best practices are, especially for an FFL

So I am not arm chair quarterbacking the operations.

2ndltsdad · Mar 10, 2017

swinokur said:
and leaving them off makes seeing thieves inside impossible.

I have no idea what security best practices are, especially for an FFL

So I am not arm chair quarterbacking the operations.

most new cams are infrared and see in black and white with no problem in total darkness

DanGuy48 · Mar 10, 2017

2ndltsdad said:
most new cams are infrared and see in black and white with no problem in total darkness

Most infrared camera see infrared light in the short IR wavelength part of the spectrum, just beyond human visual sensitivity. If it's total darkness, there's no infrared that a typical security camera see. Long wavelength IR imagers, like thermal vision stuff, are a whole different critter...and much more expensive.

StandUp · Mar 12, 2017

That video made me sick. All those firearms behind a single door that was easily pried open with a crowbar... How would the IPs here feel if the ATF passed regulations to mandate securing firearms in a safe after closing? Good safes are expensive and it would be a pain in the ass to secure your inventory every night but after watching something like this it just seems crazy not to.

bg71361 · Mar 12, 2017

StandUp said:
That video made me sick. All those firearms behind a single door that was easily pried open with a crowbar... How would the IPs here feel if the ATF passed regulations to mandate securing firearms in a safe after closing? Good safes are expensive and it would be a pain in the ass to secure your inventory every night but after watching something like this it just seems crazy not to.

Seriously beat a dead horse much?

HordesOfKailas · Mar 12, 2017

All of this quarterbacking needs to stop. UGS has already stated in another thread that we don't have all of the info and that the ATF ok'ed their setup previously. There is a lot more info (video too) that none of us currently have. Maybe stop blaming the victim. UGS was the victim of a burglary despite what seems to be ample precautions and countermeasures. They don't need your judgement now, they need your support.

DISCLAIMER: I am not associated with UGS in any way, but the armchair quarterbacking is really pissing me off.

Sundazes · Mar 12, 2017

StandUp said:
That video made me sick. All those firearms behind a single door that was easily pried open with a crowbar... How would the IPs here feel if the ATF passed regulations to mandate securing firearms in a safe after closing? Good safes are expensive and it would be a pain in the ass to secure your inventory every night but after watching something like this it just seems crazy not to.

You really need to read the other thread.

Name Taken · Mar 12, 2017

StandUp said:
That video made me sick. All those firearms behind a single door that was easily pried open with a crowbar... How would the IPs here feel if the ATF passed regulations to mandate securing firearms in a safe after closing? Good safes are expensive and it would be a pain in the ass to secure your inventory every night but after watching something like this it just seems crazy not to.

You'd been better off just staying at 3 posts.

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