Good and Substantial- Not Just for Carry Anymore

lawdogmd · Mar 16, 2017

So, I will throw this out as an interesting aside. I have often argued against G&S by saying there is no way G&S would be sustained if applied to freedom of speech or religion, well it looks like I was wrong. A local Montgomery County female basketball player, happens to be Muslim, was prohibited from playing in the region finals because she didn't have "documented evidence" that her religion required she wear a hijab or headscarf.

I guess Maryland is OK with applying G&S to other fundamental civil liberties. Who knew?

Anyone think Frosh will jump in to clear this one up?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...6e6a6713f4b_story.html?utm_term=.6671b24baabb

iH8DemLibz · Mar 16, 2017

You didn't argue it much on here... Just kidding.

I think G&S is more like driving around and seeing MPH signs with no numbers on them.

Then being pulled over and told you were receiving a ticket for speeding.

And when you ask how fast you were going, the police aren't required to tell you.

swinokur · Mar 16, 2017

G&S was sustained by the 4CA in Woollard.

lawdogmd · Mar 16, 2017

Yeah, I know

iH8DemLibz said:
You didn't argue it much on here... Just kidding.

I think G&S is more like driving around and seeing MPH signs with no numbers on them.

Then being pulled over and told you were receiving a ticket for speeding.

And when you ask how fast you were going, the police aren't required to tell you.

I may not post much, very rarely admittedly, but I do write letters to legislators and do what a little here and there.

I also know G&S was sustained with respect to carry permits BUT does anyone expect a G&S type demand related to the First Amendment to be supported by Frosh? I think the disparity interesting.

iH8DemLibz · Mar 16, 2017

The first amendment doesn't go bang.

If it did, Frosh would be all over it.

CrueChief · Mar 16, 2017

Somehow I thought being a Muslim meant you were the member of a protected class and the rest of us had bow down in submission??? But like was said before who knew?

thomfantomas · Mar 16, 2017

CrueChief said:
Somehow I thought being a Muslim meant you were the member of a protected class and the rest of us had bow down in submission??? But like was said before who knew?

x2

Hakuna Matata · Mar 16, 2017

"National Federation of State High School Associations" rule book....doesn't sound like it's a Maryland specific rule to me, just so happens the issue occurred in MOCO

WeaponsCollector · Mar 16, 2017

No politician judge or cop can decide whether or not I have a "good and substantial" reason to carry a weapon for my own personal defense.
Only I can decide that. :draw:

press1280 · Mar 18, 2017

lawdogmd said:
So, I will throw this out as an interesting aside. I have often argued against G&S by saying there is no way G&S would be sustained if applied to freedom of speech or religion, well it looks like I was wrong. A local Montgomery County female basketball player, happens to be Muslim, was prohibited from playing in the region finals because she didn't have "documented evidence" that her religion required she wear a hijab or headscarf.

I guess Maryland is OK with applying G&S to other fundamental civil liberties. Who knew?

Anyone think Frosh will jump in to clear this one up?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...6e6a6713f4b_story.html?utm_term=.6671b24baabb

Not sure if that technically applies like a law, just sounds like a game regulation.
On a side note, I'd be really curious if any states or localities try to apply this standard to simple handgun ownership. I'm almost wishing some do, just to help get the question to SCOTUS to smash it down once and for all.

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